Prabhupāda: Central is against.
Indian man: If the central is against, then how they have given a permission Delhi?
Indian man: Then how we have got a permission in Delhi?
Prabhupāda: What is that permission?
Indian man: Temple permission building.
Yaśomatīnandana: We don't have . . . we haven't built a temple in Delhi.
Indian man: We don't have a temple in Delhi.
Prabhupāda: No, no.
Indian man: Then what about the permission in the Māyāpur, Vṛndāvana?
Prabhupāda: Māyāpur, that doesn't require any permission.
Indian man: What?
Prabhupāda: That doesn't require any permission. That is the village.
Indian man: Ācchā. And what about this Vṛndāvana?
Prabhupāda: That also, they gave permission with great difficulty.
Indian man: Hyderabad?
Prabhupāda: Hyderabad, I do not know.
Yaśomatīnandana: Hyderabad is easier, because the people are very much in favor of us.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And Vṛndāvana they gave it very late. After one year, Vṛndāvana. Because the government doesn't want further development of Vṛndāvana. They are neglecting the city in such a way that no gentleman will go there. The old city is so . . . formerly, it was planned that, "So many pilgrims come here. It should be nicely developed." But now they have given up. They have purposefully kept so nasty. You have seen the city?
Yaśomatīnandana: Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: So nasty that nobody will go there.
Indian man: But should we now take the help from the political parties such as Shiv Sena?
Prabhupāda: That is very good.
Indian man: Because they were the, only these people, who have stopped the police, the municipal commissioner, from breaking the temple.
Indian man: Breaking the temple.
Prabhupāda: But one thing is . . . my fear is that as soon as they know the American people are agitating this, they may ask, "You go."
Indian man: (indistinct) . . . India.
Prabhupāda: And I have no Indians to manage these big, big temples. Neither they are trained up. Trained up. I have trained up these American boys. They are doing nicely. But they cannot. They have taken a brahmacārī dress, and they will come with pant. And they will argue, "Why? What is the wrong there? Why should I give up pant? Why shall I have tilaka? Why shall I give up smoking?" Why . . . they will put so many "whys" that my life will be spoiled. Because they have advanced. So many rascals svāmīs have told them, "Yes . . ."
Indian man: But the same principle, as you say, that if we do anything, they may send our people out of India.
Indian man: As you rightly say, that if we do anything actively, then they may see your boys going out of India, foreigners, Americans.
Yaśomatīnandana: They will kick us.
Indian man: "Yes. Throw them out." They will argue on that ground, and they will say that, "You are not required. You are nuisance," or whatever the reasons.
Prabhupāda: Any reason. No reason. No reason. "We don't want you."