So at the present moment it is very strong, the conceit that, "I am this body." "I am American," and "I am Indian," "I am European," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim," "I am brāhmin," "I am kṣatriya," "I am śūdra," "I am this, those . . ." so many. This is very strong, and bhauma ijya-dhīḥ, that because I am identifying to a certain type of body, and wherefrom the body has come out, the land is worshipable. That is nationalism. So yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke sva-dhīḥ kalatrādiṣu bhauma ijya-dhīḥ, yat-tīrtha-buddhiḥ salile, and tīrtha, place of pilgrimage. We go, we take bath in the river, like the Christians, they take bath in the Jordan River, or Hindus, they go to Haridwar, take bath in the Ganges, or Vṛndāvana they take bath. But they think by taking bath in that water, his job is finished.
No. Actually the job is to go to such pilgrimages, holy places, to find out, experience spiritual advancement. Because many spiritually advanced men, they live there. Therefore one should go such places and find out the experienced transcendentalist and take lessons from him. That is really going to pilgrimage. Not that simply going and take bath and business finished. No. So:
- yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape tri-dhātuke
- sva-dhīḥ kalatrādiṣu bhauma ijya-dhīḥ
- yat-tīrtha-buddhiḥ salile na karhicij
- janeṣv abhijñeṣu . . .
- (SB 10.84.13)
Abhijñe, one who knows. We should approach person who knows things very well, abhijñaḥ. Kṛṣṇa is abhijñaḥ, svarat. So similarly, Kṛṣṇa's representative is also abhijñaḥ, naturally. If one associates with Kṛṣṇa, if one talks with Kṛṣṇa, he must be very abhijñaḥ, very learned, because he takes lessons from Kṛṣṇa. Therefore Kṛṣṇa's knowledge is perfect, therefore because he takes knowledge from Kṛṣṇa, his knowledge is also perfect. Abhijñaḥ.
And Kṛṣṇa talks. It is not that it is fictitious. No. Kṛṣṇa—I have already said—that Kṛṣṇa is sitting in everyone's heart, and He talks with the bona fide person. Just like a big man, he talks with some bona fide person; he doesn't waste his time talking with nonsense. He talks, that's a fact, but He does not talk with nonsense; He talks with the bona fide representative.