Dr. Kapoor: I told him about the drafts, you see, that you made the other day. I said: "Prabhupāda has only agreed. It was so magnanimous of him, so magnanimous."
Prabhupāda: Yes, I told you Friday, you write, I shall sign it. And why they are agitating and stopped such a function? And that is very regrettable. Gosvāmī means vāco vegaṁ krodha-vegaṁ viṣaheta (Upadeśāmṛta 1). If there is some krodha, he should tolerate. Now here is a Vaiṣṇava, he has done so much for Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and the reception was there, and he stopped. How he is gosvāmī? He expressed his krodha in that very moment, just to take retaliation. It is not gosvāmī. What do you think? Krodha-vegam. It is a krodha, but he could not tolerate that krodha-vegam.
He retaliated at the right moment and to a person, fit person, who was to be honored. Just see. And he claims to be gosvāmī. The first business is vāco vegaṁ krodha-vegam. The Vaikuṇṭha mentality is that if one is serving—I have read it in Bhāgavata—Kṛṣṇa better than somebody else, he would simply appreciate that, "Kṛṣṇa has so much favored him. Oh, how fortunate he is. When I shall be able?" That is Vaikuṇṭha mentality. And the material mentality is, "Oh, he has advanced so much. How to cut down him?" That is material. This is the difference between Vaikuṇṭha mentality. So his business is how to cut down. So he is not a gosvāmī. At least I will not accept. What do you think? Am I right or wrong?
Dr. Kapoor: Of course you are.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Dr. Kapoor: What shall I say? (chuckles)
Prabhupāda: This is the definition of gosvāmī. Vāco vegam krodha-vegam udaro-vegam pastha-vegam etān manasaḥ vegam, etān vegān viṣaheta dhīraḥ pṛthivīṁ sa śiṣyāt (NOI 1). So he has not proved to be very dhīra. Dhīrādhīra-priyau priya-karau nirmatsarau (Śrīnivāsa Ācārya). So that is my regret, that these people cannot appreciate the service of a Vaiṣṇava. They are simply personally interested. Personally interested is materialistic way of life. Everybody is personally interested. (break)
Dr. Kapoor: I think after he returns he will do something.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Dr. Kapoor: He might do something after he returns.
Prabhupāda: All right, we shall see to it. (end)