Prabhupāda: I am dreaming something. But again at daytime I forget what I dreamt at night. So sometimes we go very unknown place, very nice place, nice building, nice atmosphere. Huh? And at . . . as soon as the dream is over, then again I am on my bed. You see? And when I dream, I forget I'm not in my bed, but I'm in the surrounding of palaces, of gardens. So this is our daily experience.
So because we wanted to imitate Kṛṣṇa, kṛṣṇa bhuliya jīva bhoga vañcha kare (Prema-vivarta), the Kṛṣṇa has given us a place which is illusion, which is not fact. Temporary. Illusion. Just like we sometimes see water in the desert. That is illusion. Practically there is no illusion, uh, there is no water. But we see, "Oh, here is water, vast water." The animal, they run after the water. Similarly, we are also running after this illusion, "There is happiness. There is happiness." Therefore there is no happiness.
At the fag end of life, we are disappointed, we are frustrated. Brdhya kala aula saba sukha pāgala. When we cannot again . . . no more we can enjoy with our senses, then we become very much depressed. Old men, you'll find old men, those who are not spiritually inclined, they're very morose. Morose because they cannot use anymore the senses. They sometime take medicine. But how it can be done? So brdhya kala aula.
So we are under this illusion. This is called māyā. We should understand that we are not this body. We are not this body. Our bodily enjoyment, sense gratification, that is illusion. In another place in the Bhagavad-gītā you'll find it is said, sukham ātyantikaṁ yat tat atīndriyaṁ grāhyam. (aside) Find out that verse.
Sukham ātyantikaṁ yat tad atīndriyaṁ grāhyam. We are trying to enjoy life with these material senses, but that is illusion, that is temporary. Temporary and illusion. Real enjoyment is with our spiritual senses.
(aside) What is it . . .? Have you got?
Pradyumna:
- sukham ātyantikaṁ yat tad
- buddhi-grāhyam atīndriyam
- vetti yatra na caivāyaṁ
- sthitaś calati tattvataḥ
- (BG 6.21)
Prabhupāda: What is the translation?
Pradyumna: There's a few verses together. "The stage of perfection is called trance, or samādhi, when one mind . . . when one's mind is completely restrained from material mental activities by practice of yoga. This is characterized by one's ability to see the self by the pure mind and to relish and rejoice in the self. In that joyous state, one is situated in boundless transcendental happiness and enjoys himself through transcendental senses. Established thus, one never departs from the truth, and upon gaining this, he thinks there is no greater gain."
Prabhupāda: So every information is there. If we want actually happiness, then we have to purify the material consciousness. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. We have come to the point of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That Kṛṣṇa consciousness can be achieved by the grace of Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa consciousness . . . athāpi te deva padāmbhuja-dvayam-prasāda-leśānugṛhīta eva hi (SB 10.14.29). Kṛṣṇa cannot be understood by any other method than the Kṛṣṇa method. Kṛṣṇa is absolute. Therefore if one wants to understand Kṛṣṇa, he must take the Kṛṣṇa method. Kṛṣṇa method.