Just the material science begins from the sunshine, but the sunshine is based on this science, God consciousness, Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Philosophy, any philosophy, er, any science you take, you have to accept some axiomatic truth. Then you go on. But wherefrom the axiomatic truth? Science is discovering some subtle laws of the nature, but who made that law? As soon as you say that "Here is a law which is being carried very nicely," there must be a law maker. You have to accept it. The science of astronomy—the planets, the stars, the sun, the moon moving in their orbit very nicely, very perfectly and accurately—there is law.
This is law of nature. You might have discovered—you are great scientist—that under this law, the law of gravitation or this law, that law, so many laws there are. But the background you have to inquire, "Who is the law maker?" Unless there is law maker, how there can be law? Take for example your state laws.
As soon as you say that this is law, "Keep to the right," you have to accept there is a law maker under whose direction this law is being carried out nicely. If you don't carry out, then you are punished. Similarly, nature's law is not ultimate. There is law maker, and that law maker is God. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram (BG 9.10): "Prakṛti," means nature, "is working under My superintendence." "Under My superintendence." How you can deny? If there is nature's law, who made this law? You see that the clock is running very nicely, the machine is going on, but that is not the ultimate. There is a maker of the clock or watch. Without understanding the maker, simply if you understand the clock only, that is not sufficient knowledge.
So these things are very nicely explained in Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, and we are trying to explain the science of God or knowledge. If you like, you can take, and we are sure that your life will be successful. This chanting and combined with this hearing of this Bhagavad-gītā and Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam will advance you in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, or God consciousness.
And as Prahlāda Mahārāja is advising, instructing his class fellows, that this is to be learned from the beginning of your life, but if you have missed the opportunity, but it is better late than never. Here is a process introduced by Caitanya Mahāprabhu. We can accept it immediately even though it is late.
Thank you very much. (devotees offer obeisances)
Any questions?
Lady guest (1): Where was Kṛṣṇa born? Was Kṛṣṇa born, and if so, where?
Prabhupāda: Yes, Kṛṣṇa was born, but you have to know how Kṛṣṇa is born. That is your intelligence. Just like sun is born every morning. There is no sun now, but in the morning we will see sun, and from the eastern side. So do you think that eastern side is the mother of sun? Because sun is born from the eastern side, you can take it for granted that eastern side is the mother of sun. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa appears in similar way, but that does not mean that He is born.
That is stated in the Fourth Chapter, Bhagavad-gītā, janma karma me divyaṁ yo jānāti tattvataḥ (BG 4.9): "Anyone who understands in truth how I take My birth, how I work, how I am transcendental . . . " Simply by knowing these three things—how Kṛṣṇa is born, and how does He work and what is His actual position—the result is tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya: "My dear Arjuna, simply knowing these three things, one comes to Me after quitting this material body." Punar janma naiti: "He never again comes back to . . . " That means, in other words, if you can understand the birth of Kṛṣṇa, then you will stop your any more birth. You will be free from this birth and death.
So try to understand how Kṛṣṇa takes His birth. Simply by understanding this . . . tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti. If you can understand how Kṛṣṇa takes his birth, then your birth and death problem is solved. He becomes liberated. So birth of Kṛṣṇa has to be understood. And who can understand? That is also stated in the Bhagavad-gītā, manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye (BG 7.3): "Out of many thousands of men"—sahasra means thousands; thousands, many thousands, means many hundreds of thousands' men—"one is interested for spiritual advancement of life." Kaścid yatati siddhaye. Siddhaye means perfection.
Not all men are interested. "What is perfection, nonsense? Let us eat, drink, be merry, enjoy. Don't care for perfection. This is perfection." They are eating, sleeping, mating, that's all. Who knows what is going to be happened after death? Who can . . . they don't care. This is the position of general population. So out of that rascal population, one may be intelligent enough, "What is the aim of life? What I am? Why I am suffering? Why suffering is imposed upon me? I want to be happy. Why happiness is not there? Why it is simply temporary?" So many things, questions.