Prabhupāda: But it is not easier? If you teach one child that "If you meditate upon Kṛṣṇa within," that is easier? Or if you say that, "The fire which you are cooking on, this is Kṛṣṇa's"? Which is easier? So why you become more than child? You should remain always child, then you will get knowledge, real knowledge. That is the mistake: "I am now grown up. I cannot accept as child." What is the difference between child?
A child also learns A-B-C-D and a grown-up man also uses A-B-C-D. In what sense he has grown up? The A-B-C-D is there. But when you are grown up can you give up A-B-C-D? Can you give up A-B-C-D when you are grown up? What do you mean by grown up? What is the difference between child and you? You also use A-B-C-D, he also uses A-B-C-D. But his knowledge of A-B-C-D is not so perfect as yours.
Guest: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Eh? Yes, actually.
Guest: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Yes. We should remain child. But they are going to become Kṛṣṇa. That is nonsense. That is nonsense. If you remain a child of Kṛṣṇa, that is real sense. And as soon as I want to become Kṛṣṇa, that is rascaldom. Do you accept this or not?
Guest: No, no . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is rascaldom. We want to stop this rascaldom from this world. That is our movement. We want to remain a child, eternally, of Kṛṣṇa, protected by Him. That is our mission. Because you cannot become Kṛṣṇa at any time. How you can become? It is false endeavor to try to become Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa says, mamaivāṁśo jīva . . . what is that verse? Mamaivāṁśo jīva bhūtaḥ jīva loke sanātanaḥ (BG 15.7)? What is that? You know this verse? What is that? Just recite.
Guest: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: No, you recite this verse. (Hindi: It is alright. Krsna is saying . . .) Kṛṣṇa is saying that, "The living entities are My part and parcels eternally." Sanātanaḥ. So how you become equal to Kṛṣṇa? Part is never equal to the whole. That is axiomatic truth. So if you are eternally part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa, how you become equal with Kṛṣṇa? Simply by artificial endeavor you become one with Kṛṣṇa? That oneness realization means oneness of quality, not of quantity.
Guest: (indistinct) . . . When we merge into Kṛṣṇa . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Guest: When you merge into Kṛṣṇa, all this merges into Kṛṣṇa, then . . .
Prabhupāda: Merges?
Guest: . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: First of all, you are part. Suppose you are part, a screw. You are set in the machine. Does it mean that you become machine? Does it mean that you become machine? You are a screw, you are a part of the machine. Now you are aloof from the machine. Now when somebody comes and he again screws, it will be machine. The machine's part is complete and you are also complete.
Guest: You mean the goal of . . . (indistinct) . . . to merge into that?
Prabhupāda: Merging means this. Just like the machine merges with the machine . . . a screw merges with the machine, but still a screw remains the screw and the machine remains the machine. But as soon as they are mixed together, the screw has value and the machine is complete. But not that the screw becomes the machine or the machine becomes screw. Is it not?