Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) Dasyu-dharma. Their business will be how to plunder. Because at the present moment the so-called democracy means, to tell the truth, all cunning, third-class, fourth-class men, they are doing. They have no sympathy for the general public. Their only aim is, so long he's in the office, gather as much money as possible. Am I right or not?
Mr. Asnani: Yes, sir.
Prabhupāda: That means plunder. So if you remain with no money, who will plunder?
Mr. Asnani: Yes. No one will come.
Prabhupāda: Because they are becoming plunderer, you remain without any bhūtīs.
Mr. Asnani: So what to plunder, eh?
Girirāja: Sanātana Gosvāmī, when he suspected that they were going to steal, he told, "Get rid of it."
Prabhupāda: Yes. (laughs) Yes. He immediately offered, "I have got this seven dollars. You take it." He was astrologer. He said: "No, you have got eight dollars. But I'll not take your money." "No, no, you take, sir. You'll not take—somebody will take. I'll give you. Kindly help me." And he chastised his servant, "Why you have taken these dangerous things? So you have got still one dollar. You go back. You don't come with me. And eight dollars I have given him. I'll be free." He thought that, "Master is by sentiment leaving home, and he is so opulent. Let me go with him and keep some money in case of emergency." Of course, that is . . . from his part it was right, but he thought that, "Without this money, to remain, is more safe than to feel safety by keeping money." Because if the government is plunderer, then there is no other help. This time is coming. The government will plunder in the name of taxation, and there will be no rainfall; scarcity of food. So everyone will feel very difficult to maintain the family. They'll leave voluntarily and go away. This is foretold.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: This milk is not good, eh? Even for you they cheat. I told him specially, "It's for our Gurujī. Please don't cheat."
Prabhupāda: Who cares for Gurujī? (laughs) Who cares for Gurujī? They think that, "Gurujī is cheating you—I am cheating your Gurujī. What is the wrong?" They think Gurujī means cheater. Nowadays, Gurujī means cheater. "So you are cheated by your Gurujī, so let me cheat your Gurujī." That's all. Sate satāṁ samācaret. If one is sat, cunning, you should be also cunning, more cunning. This is Cāṇakya Paṇḍita's advice, politics. Sate satāṁ samācaret. Very miserable condition in this age. Therefore the sane man should utilize the little opportunity of human life in the cent percent Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That is the proper utilization of life. Try to serve Kṛṣṇa cent percent. Bās. That is proper utilization of life. The so-called philanthropy, altruism, humanitarianism, this ism, that . . . bogus . . . not bogus—useless. It will not help. They are pious activities. So Caitanya-caritāmṛta says, pious or impious, both of them are impediments to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So we are not interested with pious activities or impious even. We are interested how to serve Kṛṣṇa. Our philosophy is very difficult to understand. Suppose you are giving some medical relief, and if I say that, "Why you should waste your time by giving medical relief? Why not give him relief from birth and death?" they will laugh. Is it not? They'll laugh that, "What nonsense he's speaking? This man is suffering. He immediately requires." We don't say that, "You don't give medical relief," but why do you forget the real business? That is our . . . Vivekananda said: "What is the use of pouring water in tulasī? Better pour water in a eggplant śāka. You'll get some eggplant." This is . . . Vivekananda said. Eggplant is also a small tree, and tulasī . . . so if somebody is pouring water on a tulasī leaf for bhakti, he condemns him, "Why you are wasting time? Pour water on this eggplant. Tomorrow you'll get two." (laughs) This is karmī. "God is fictitious. God's service is another sentiment. Do something practical."
Mr. Asnani: He was a politician. Pseudo-politician.
Prabhupāda: He went to preach Vedānta, but instead of preaching Vedānta, he learned so many things which is objectionable from Vedic civilization.