Yogeśvara: Let me relate the information little by little. He says: "The word science is misleading. Generally the word science is used by people who are enemies of science to make it, to pinpoint it that, 'This is the enemy.' So they call it science, a general word."
Robert Gouiran: Exactly.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They are misleading. They have no knowledge, and they are misleading. The basic principle of knowledge . . . khey have no idea of spiritual basic principle. They take material basic principle. Therefore the beginning of their knowledge is wrong.
Guru-gaurāṅga: (French)
Robert Gouiran: Yes, yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: So on the wrong platform you may go, go forward more and more, but it will be dismantled because it is wrong.
Yogeśvara: What is the . . . is there a . . . what is the nuclear physicist's idea about the origins of creation?
Robert Gouiran: Well, nuclear physics . . .
Prabhupāda: They do not . . .
Robert Gouiran: Nuclear physics has nothing to do with the study of creation.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they have nothing.
Robert Gouiran: Nuclear physics is just the study of the structure of matter.
Yogeśvara: The structure of matter?
Robert Gouiran: Yes. That's . . . how matter is done, as long as we could observe it. And how the matter is organized. And is it, is it possible to go in the deepest level where we could find the smallest particles? But nothing . . .
Prabhupāda: But so far nuclear weapon is concerned, so there is no much credit. Because it is a weapon for killing, death. Is it not? Not for that purpose?
Robert Gouiran: No, no. Nuclear physics in itself is just a pure research of knowledge. But the manufacturing of weapons, that's not nuclear physics.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Robert Gouiran: That's just business.
Prabhupāda: What is the nuclear physics?
Robert Gouiran: It's just a . . . the nuclear physics is just a search of . . . the search of the structure of the matter.
Yogeśvara: The structure, how matter is . . .
Robert Gouiran: How matter is done at the most elementary level.