Prajāpati: The most famous theologian of this century named Paul Tillich said that all words are symbols, and God is a religious symbol pointing to our ultimate concern.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's nice.
Prajāpati: That's nice?
Prabhupāda: Yes. We say also.
Karandhara: Except Paul Tillich was the ultimate rascal. He was a debaucher. He debauched women all over Europe.
Hṛdayānanda: He recently died.
Karandhara: There is a book about him, a very inflammatory book about how he would debauch all of his friends. He said he got all of his inspirations after having sex with other women. He said after having sex he would get his inspirations on theology.
Prabhupāda: Sometimes the drunkards say also like that. They get inspiration by drinking. Yes.
Karandhara: There is one very famous philosopher named Dean Brown. He said that . . . he had a saying that, "Some men say that you become intoxicated by wine, but I become sobered by wine."
Prabhupāda: That can be accepted. "One man's food, another man's poison." That is going on everywhere. But for that reason one cannot accept poison as food. Is it not? Just like stool is food for the pigs. But that does not mean stool is food. It may be food for a certain class of animal. (break) No.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: I don't think so.
Prajāpati: Food for somebody.
Karandhara: It is very hard.
Prajāpati: Harder than a bullet? (break)
Prabhupāda: Oh, you have not covered?
Child: That's all right. (break)
Prajāpati: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Oh, so they are coming to consciousness. Why they are praying to God?
Prajāpati: Things get so bad, they have to turn to God.
Prabhupāda: Duḥkhse sab hari bhaje. When one is distressed, there is sense of God consciousness. But if they continue it even in their happiness, then it is all right.
Prajāpati: They must have knowledge, though, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: But in happiness they forget.