Prabhupāda: During the time of Mahārāja Parīkṣit's grandson. Mahārāja Parīkṣit was the grandson of Yudhiṣṭhira, and Yudhiṣṭhira ruled over five thousand years ago. So the Yayāti . . . Mahārāja Parīkṣit . . . Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira's grandson is Parīkṣit. His son is Janamejaya. And his son is Yayāti. And his son started Greek and Roman Empire. So therefore the Greek history is not more than three thousand years. Mahārāja Yayāti banished his two sons to the European quarters. Mleccha-yavana. Later on they became yavana, from Vedic culture deviated. This is the history.
Amogha: He sent them there for conquering?
Prabhupāda: Huh? No. He gave him, that "You take that place."
Amogha: Oh. "This is your kingdom."
Prabhupāda: Yes. Every, all world was emperor, the Mahārāja Yudhiṣṭhira and the family. Sa-sāgara. Sa-sāgara means "including all the oceans." That means the whole world. There was one flag only during the time of Mahārāja Parīkṣit. And he first saw the cow-killing maybe in Africa or in Arabia. One black man was trying to kill a cow, and Mahārāja Parīkṣit was on tour, and immediately he punished him. That is Kali. The black man means Africa. Or where other place, black men?
Paramahaṁsa: Some of the . . . there are some natives in Asia also, southeast Asia, that are black.
Prabhupāda: Arabia? No. Arabians are not black.
Paramahaṁsa: Not . . . generally they're not so black. Indonesians are black.
Prabhupāda: No.
Śrutakīrti: Africa is about the only place, other than some islands.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Africa is black.
Amogha: Aborigines here also.
Paramahaṁsa: They have black natives here also, Australia.
Prabhupāda: They are all descendant of the same.
Amogha: Did the Greek civilization follow the Vedic culture?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. They were worshiping demigods from the Vedas.
Paramahaṁsa: But they didn't have a very high standard.
Prabhupāda: These, these Vedic mantra, there is mention of so many demigods, how they were born. You do not know the meaning.
Paramahaṁsa: No, we are just chanting.