Haṁsadūta: He says: ". . . even though You are present before me just like a child, I cannot understand You." So people they, they think they understand it, only God is nowhere near. (laughing with Prabhupāda)
Śyāmasundara: "As I said in my Brahma-samhitā." (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Now this is the position. Even Brahmā cannot understand, what we can understand? So without burdening ourself, jñāne prayāsam. To . . . jñāne prayāsam means endeavor to understand. No one . . .
Give up this practice, jñāne prayāsam udapāsya namanta eva (SB 10.14.3). Just become submissive. Submission means that we cannot understand Kṛṣṇa, simply just serve, that's all, and develop your dormant love. That is perfect.
Haṁsadūta: You say . . . is that why Kṛṣṇa also says to Arjuna, He says: "What need is there of all this, uh . . ."
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Haṁsadūta: In, in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa also, He says to Arjuna, "What need is there of all this knowledge? Just know that with one spark of My splendor I am pervading everything."
Prabhupāda: That's all. How He is doing that, it is very difficult to know. Jñāne prayāsam udapāsya namanta eva san-mukharitāṁ bhavadīya-vārtām jīvanti (SB 10.14.3).
Śyāmasundara: I see that they've got a telephone in Māyāpur now.