Prabhupāda: Purañjana was a great king, devotee, in the history.
Jagadīśa: All material attachments are completely wiped away by the chanting Hare Krishna. One becomes fixed in the mode of goodness and by taking brahminical initiation from the spiritual master one then eventually becomes qualified, becomes situated in pure goodness and therefore can become a spiritual master himself.
Sometimes the tongue as in the case of Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī. He was not required to undergo any purificatory activities and Śukadeva Gosvāmī was completely liberated from birth. But this brahminical initiation is a second birth. This is the title given to the spirit soul taking a second birth. It is dvija, twice born.
Devotee: Aprākṛta.
Prabhupāda: Aprākṛta. Aprākṛta means transcendental. Yes. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Then, next?
There are different stages of understanding. First understanding is direct perception, pratyakṣa. In Sanskrit word it is called pratyakṣa, direct understanding. is tenth-class understanding. That is not actually understanding, direct perception. But people are giving stress that "I want to see. I want to touch." This is called pratyakṣa.
Then next is parokṣa, hearing from authorities. Then aparokṣa, realizing. Then adhokṣaja means beyond the perception of the senses. And then aprākṛta, transcendental. These are the stages for going to the aprākṛta, transcendental stage. From direct perception, then pratyakṣa, parokṣa, to take instruction from others. Then realization. Then beyond these senses. Then aprākṛta, transcendental.
So Kṛṣṇa is aprākṛta. Kṛṣṇa cannot be understood by direct sense perception. Gradually you have to rise to the aprākṛta stage, which is called vasudeva stage, beyond this material understanding. That will take time. You have to practice that. Hare Kṛṣṇa. Come on.
Devotee: Hiraṇyagarbha.
Prabhupāda: Hiraṇyagarbha. Hiraṇyagarbha is Lord Brahmā's name. Or Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu's name. Generally Garbhodakaśāyī Viṣṇu's. Hiraṇyagarbha dāsa. That's all right.
Then, next? Where is . . . no neck bead? How is that? Heh? Where is neck bead? Huh? Oh, these things are not good. It must be well equipped. Otherwise, what is the meaning of initiation?
Give . . . no neck bead? Go on. First of all get neck beads. Who is next? You have got neck beads? That's all right.