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<div class="heading">So association is so... Therefore we have named this Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. Not Kṛṣṇa consciousness only. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. A society's so beneficial we should understand. So, in this way, atha bhajana-kriyā anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. If we prosecute our devotional activities and keep our association with the devotees, then we can be free from sinful activities. And when you are completely free from sinful activities, then we get niṣṭhā. Yes, it is full faith. Niṣṭhā means full faith.
<div class="heading">So association is so... Therefore we have named this Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. Not Kṛṣṇa consciousness only. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. A society's so beneficial we should understand. So, in this way, atha bhajana-kriyā anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. If we prosecute our devotional activities and keep our association with the devotees, then we can be free from sinful activities. And when you are completely free from sinful activities, then we get niṣṭhā. Yes, it is full faith. Niṣṭhā means full faith.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 1.15.30 -- Los Angeles, December 8, 1973|Lecture on SB 1.15.30 -- Los Angeles, December 8, 1973]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Everyone can attain that bhāva stage. There is process. This process is described by Rūpa Gosvāmī how to come to the bhāva stage. Bhāva stage means just prior to perfection. One must come to the bhāva stage, next stage is perfection. Next stage is full perfection. So how to come to this bhāva stage, that is Rūpa Gosvāmī has described, ādau śraddhā. First of all little faith. Just like many outsider also come here, "What these people are doing, these Kṛṣṇa consciousness men? So let us see." So śraddhā. That is called śraddhā. Śraddhā, real śraddhā means complete faith. That is described by Caitanya-caritāmṛta. Śraddhā-śabde viśvāsa kahe sudṛḍha niścaya (Cc. Madhya  22.62). One who has got this much faith, strong faith, that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, this faith, not flickering, firm faith, "Yes, Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality..." That is called śraddhā. That is beginning of śraddhā. If you have got still doubt, then you have not come to the stage of śraddhā even. Superfluous. You may come, but when you actually believe that "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and if I engage myself in Kṛṣṇa's service, I am perfect"—two things—that is śraddhā. And the more you increase this śraddhā you become advanced. The beginning is this śraddhā. Ādau śraddhā.</p>
 
<p>So how this śraddhā, this faith can be increased? Sādhu-saṅga ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 22.83|CC Madhya 22.83]]). If you keep yourself associated with the devotees, then this śraddhā can be increased. If you simply believe, "Yes, Kṛṣṇa is Supreme Personality," but you do not live with the sādhus or devotee, then it will drop. It will finish. So just to keep the standard, the temperature right, you must keep always yourself warm. If you go away, then your (indistinct) is gone. Again you become cold. You see. This is the process. Ādau śraddhā tataḥ sādhu-saṅgaḥ (Cc. Madhya 23.14-15). Everything is perfect. The first thing is that you must believe that Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Yes. And to keep this faith strong and going on, you must keep association with devotees. Otherwise whatever little faith you got, it will be lost. It become again under the clutches of māyā. Ādau śraddhā tataḥ sādhu-saṅgaḥ (Cc. Madhya 23.14-15). And if you actually associate with sādhu, then the next stage is bhajana-kriyā, initiation, how to worship Kṛṣṇa. Then anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. If you are actually engaged in devotional service, anartha, which are not required, things will vanish. Just like we ask our students, "No illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, no meat-eating." Simply by hearing it you cannot follow it. It is not possible. If you make bhajana-kriyā, if you're actually following—chanting sixteen rounds—then you can follow the others. Otherwise, if you are spiritually weak, you cannot. The government is spending so much money to stop this intoxication, LSD, in your country. They're all failure. But here, with our pure association, a person can give up immediately. Just see how much the association is strong. Ādau śraddhā tataḥ sādhu..., bhajana-kriyā (Cc. Madhya 23.14-15). Anartha.</p>
 
<p>Then after one is free from these sinful activities, then he comes to the understanding stage. So long one is sinful, he has no possibility of understanding. Yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpam. One who is completely free from all sinful activities, anta-gatam, finished, yeṣāṁ tv anta-gataṁ pāpaṁ janānāṁ puṇya-karmaṇām. And how you can become free from sinful activities unless you act piously? Because we must have some engagement. If you have no pious engagement, then you cannot become free from sinful activities. You must act. If you do not act piously, then you must act viciously. This is the way. The Māyāvādī philosopher, they simply wants to stop impious activities. But they do not engage themselves in pious activities. Therefore they fail. They fail. You must have side by side. Paraṁ dṛṣṭvā nivartate ([[Vanisource:BG 9.59|BG 9.59]]). If you get something better, then you can give up inferior. But if you do not get better, you cannot give up the inferior. That is not possible.</p>
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<p>So you can give up this impious activities provided you are engaged fully in devotional service. Otherwise it is not possible. Simply by moral instruction, that "Stealing is very bad. Don't steal," nobody likes it. Nobody likes it. It is practical. One man has stolen, and he's arrested and he's going to the police custody. So everyone has seen, and he has heard also that the government says that if you steal, you'll be punished. In the Bible or in any other religious scripture it is said that stealing is not good. So he has heard it, and he has seen it that a man who has stolen, he is going to jail. So these two things are experienced: hearing and seeing. In spite of all his experience, why does he steal? Because he has no good association. He knows that stealing is bad; otherwise why he steals at night? Nobody can see. He knows he is doing some bad thing. But why he cannot give up that bad thing? Because he's not associating with good person. That is it.</p>
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<p>So association is so... Therefore we have named this Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. Not Kṛṣṇa consciousness only. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. A society's so beneficial we should understand. So, in this way, atha bhajana-kriyā anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. If we prosecute our devotional activities and keep our association with the devotees, then we can be free from sinful activities. And when you are completely free from sinful activities, then we get niṣṭhā. Yes, it is full faith. Niṣṭhā means full faith. Tato niṣṭhā. Tato ruciḥ. Ruci means taste. Why you are hearing about Kṛṣṇa daily, the same thing? We are speaking nothing new. "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and you have to surrender." This is our daily business. But why you are coming to see..., hear the same hackneyed words? Because it is very pleasing. This is called ruci, taste, "Yes, I want to hear this repeatedly. Yes. Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord, I am the eternal servant." You have got a taste. Unless one gets the taste, then you'll say, "What is this hackneyed word?" Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, twenty-four hours you can chant because you have got the taste. Others cannot do. This is called ruci. And ruci means āsakti, attraction: "I must go. I must chant. I must do." Tato niṣṭhā, tato ruciḥ, atha āsaktiḥ. Tato bhāvaḥ. Then bhāva: "Ah, Kṛṣṇa. I will associate with Kṛṣṇa. Then Kṛṣṇa's love, that is perfection."</p>
So you ''yeṣāṁ'' . . . you can give up this impious activities provided you are engaged fully in devotional service. Otherwise it is not possible. Simply by moral instruction that, "Stealing is very bad. Don't steal," nobody will accept. Nobody will accept. It is practical. One man has stolen, and he's arrested and he's going to the police custody. So everyone has seen, and he has heard also that the government says that if you steal, you'll be punished. And in the Bible or in any other religious scripture it is said that stealing is not good. So he has heard it, and he has seen it that a man who has stolen, he is going to jail. So these two things are experienced: hearing and seeing. So in spite of all his experience, why does he steal? Because he has no good association. He knows that stealing is bad; otherwise why he steals at night? Nobody can see. He knows it is, "I'm doing some bad thing." But why he cannot give up that bad thing? Because he's not associating with good person. That is it.
<p>So those who are not attained to this stage, first stage is how to become free from sinful ac..., anartha. Anartha you don't require, but you are habituated. And māyā is so strong, you don't require to smoke, but the māyā is advertising, "Here is one cool cigarette, or this hot cigarette, or this..." This is called māyā. You don't require it. It has no existence. There is no pleasure, but still you are attached to it. That is called māyā, illusion. That is called illusion. So we have got so friend, so nice friends all over the world, that we... You do not require... They are simply illurimous(?), "Here is whisky, here is this wine, here is that wine, here is this woman, here is this illicit sex, here is this cigarette, here is meat-eating, here is..." This is going on.</p>
 
<p>So therefore this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is the only humanitarian work who can save the human society. All are helping them to go to hell. This is a fact. All are helping simply... So many innocent human beings are being slaughtered by education, by culture, by so-called society, friendship... It is very vicious cycle. Therefore here it is said, Kṛṣṇa sai... Arjuna said, yathā..., saṅgrāma-mūrdhani, kāla-karma-tamo-ruddham. This nice instruction of Bhagavad-gītā becomes choked up by the time, kāla. The time, you know, everyone, time's business is to destroy. You construct very nice house-ten years or, say, five years after, you have to again replace it because the time has destroyed it, so many things. The time..., time destroys. This is the business of time, kāla. And karma, our karma, because we are always engaged in sinful activities, karma. Kāla, karma, and tamas, ignorance. Ignorance. Tamas means darkness, and the symptom of tamo-guṇa is laziness and sleep. Those who are lazy and sleeping, you must know he's under the influence of tamo-guṇa. And rajo-guṇa, always acting foolishly. Just like these people are running. They're rajo-guṇa. But actually in this world there are two guṇas-rajas and tamas, ignorance and foolishly active. Foolish active is very dangerous. There are four classes: lazy intelligent, busy intelligent, lazy foolish, and active foolish. The active foolish is a fourth-class man. So at the present moment they're very active, but they're all foolish. Therefore the world is in danger. Active foolishness. Foolish, if he stops, he does not work, it is better. But as soon as he becomes active he becomes more dangerous.</p>
So association is so . . . therefore we have named this Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. Not Kṛṣṇa Consciousness only. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. A society's so beneficial, we should understand. So, in this way, ''atha bhajana-kriyā anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt''. If we prosecute our devotional activities and keep association with the devotees, then we can be free from sinful activities. And when you are completely free from sinful activities, then we get ''niṣṭhā'': "Yes." It is full faith. ''Niṣṭhā'' means full faith. ''Tato niṣṭhā. Tato ruciḥ. Ruci'' means taste. Why you are hearing about Kṛṣṇa daily, the same thing? We are speaking nothing new, "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and you have to surrender," this is our all daily business. But why you are coming to see . . . hear the same hackneyed words? Because it is very pleasing.
 
This is called ''ruci'', taste "Yes, I want to hear this repeatedly. Yes. Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord. I am the eternal servant." You have got a taste. Unless one gets the taste, then you'll say, "What is this hackneyed word?" Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, twenty-four hours you can chant because you have got a taste. Others cannot do. This is called ''ruci''. And ''ruci'' means ''āsakti'', attraction, "I must go. I must chant. I must do." ''Tato niṣṭhā, tato ruciḥ, atha āsaktiḥ, tato bhāvaḥ'', then ''bhāva'': "Ah, Kṛṣṇa. I will associate with Kṛṣṇa." Then Kṛṣṇa's love. That is perfection.
 
So those who are not attained to this stage, first stage is how to become free from sinful ac . . . ''anartha. Anartha'' you don't require, but you are habituated. And ''māyā'' is so strong. You don't require to smoke, but the ''māyā'' is advertising, "Here is one cool cigarette," or "this hot cigarette," or this . . . you see? This is called ''māyā''. You don't require it. It has no existence. There is no pleasure, but still you are attached to it. That is called ''māyā'', illusion. That is called illusion. So we have got so friend, so nice friends all over the world, that we . . . what you do not require, that is . . . they are simply allurimous: "Here is whisky, here is this wine, here is that wine, here is this woman, here is this illicit sex, here is this cigarette, here is meat-eating, here is . . ." This is going on.
 
So therefore this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is the only humanitarian work who can save the human society. All are helping them to go to hell. This is a fact. All are helping simply . . . so many innocent human beings are being slaughtered, you see, by education, by culture, by so-called society, friendship . . . it is very vicious cycle. Therefore here it is said, Kṛṣṇa sai . . . Arjuna says, ''yathā . . . saṅgrāma-mūrdhani, kāla-karma-tamo-ruddham'': this nice instruction of ''Bhagavad-gītā'' becomes choked up by the time, ''kāla''. The time, you know, everyone, time's business is to destroy. You construct very nice house—ten years or, say, five years after, you have to again repair it, because the time has destroyed it, so many things. So time . . . time destroys. This is the business of time, ''kāla''.
 
And ''karma''. Our ''karma'', because we are always engaged in sinful activities, ''karma'' . . . ''kāla'', ''karma'', and ''tama'', ignorance. Ignorance. ''Tama'' means darkness, and the symptom of ''tamo-guṇa'' is laziness and sleep. Those who are lazy and sleeping, you must know he's under the influence of ''tamo-guṇa''. And ''rajo-guṇa'': always acting foolishly. Just like these people are running. They're ''rajo-guṇa''. But actually in this world there are two ''guṇas—raja'' and ''tama'', ignorance and foolishly active. Foolish active is very dangerous. There are four classes: lazy intelligent, busy intelligent, and lazy foolish and active foolish. (laughter) The active foolish is the fourth-class man. So at the present moment they're very active, but they're all foolish. Therefore the world is in danger. Active foolishness. Foolish, if he stops, he does not work, it is better. But as soon as he becomes active he becomes more dangerous.</p>
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Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures

So association is so... Therefore we have named this Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. Not Kṛṣṇa consciousness only. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. A society's so beneficial we should understand. So, in this way, atha bhajana-kriyā anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. If we prosecute our devotional activities and keep our association with the devotees, then we can be free from sinful activities. And when you are completely free from sinful activities, then we get niṣṭhā. Yes, it is full faith. Niṣṭhā means full faith.


Lecture on SB 1.15.30 -- Los Angeles, December 8, 1973:

So you yeṣāṁ . . . you can give up this impious activities provided you are engaged fully in devotional service. Otherwise it is not possible. Simply by moral instruction that, "Stealing is very bad. Don't steal," nobody will accept. Nobody will accept. It is practical. One man has stolen, and he's arrested and he's going to the police custody. So everyone has seen, and he has heard also that the government says that if you steal, you'll be punished. And in the Bible or in any other religious scripture it is said that stealing is not good. So he has heard it, and he has seen it that a man who has stolen, he is going to jail. So these two things are experienced: hearing and seeing. So in spite of all his experience, why does he steal? Because he has no good association. He knows that stealing is bad; otherwise why he steals at night? Nobody can see. He knows it is, "I'm doing some bad thing." But why he cannot give up that bad thing? Because he's not associating with good person. That is it.

So association is so . . . therefore we have named this Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. Not Kṛṣṇa Consciousness only. Kṛṣṇa Consciousness Society. A society's so beneficial, we should understand. So, in this way, atha bhajana-kriyā anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. If we prosecute our devotional activities and keep association with the devotees, then we can be free from sinful activities. And when you are completely free from sinful activities, then we get niṣṭhā: "Yes." It is full faith. Niṣṭhā means full faith. Tato niṣṭhā. Tato ruciḥ. Ruci means taste. Why you are hearing about Kṛṣṇa daily, the same thing? We are speaking nothing new, "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and you have to surrender," this is our all daily business. But why you are coming to see . . . hear the same hackneyed words? Because it is very pleasing.

This is called ruci, taste "Yes, I want to hear this repeatedly. Yes. Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Lord. I am the eternal servant." You have got a taste. Unless one gets the taste, then you'll say, "What is this hackneyed word?" Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, twenty-four hours you can chant because you have got a taste. Others cannot do. This is called ruci. And ruci means āsakti, attraction, "I must go. I must chant. I must do." Tato niṣṭhā, tato ruciḥ, atha āsaktiḥ, tato bhāvaḥ, then bhāva: "Ah, Kṛṣṇa. I will associate with Kṛṣṇa." Then Kṛṣṇa's love. That is perfection.

So those who are not attained to this stage, first stage is how to become free from sinful ac . . . anartha. Anartha you don't require, but you are habituated. And māyā is so strong. You don't require to smoke, but the māyā is advertising, "Here is one cool cigarette," or "this hot cigarette," or this . . . you see? This is called māyā. You don't require it. It has no existence. There is no pleasure, but still you are attached to it. That is called māyā, illusion. That is called illusion. So we have got so friend, so nice friends all over the world, that we . . . what you do not require, that is . . . they are simply allurimous: "Here is whisky, here is this wine, here is that wine, here is this woman, here is this illicit sex, here is this cigarette, here is meat-eating, here is . . ." This is going on.

So therefore this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is the only humanitarian work who can save the human society. All are helping them to go to hell. This is a fact. All are helping simply . . . so many innocent human beings are being slaughtered, you see, by education, by culture, by so-called society, friendship . . . it is very vicious cycle. Therefore here it is said, Kṛṣṇa sai . . . Arjuna says, yathā . . . saṅgrāma-mūrdhani, kāla-karma-tamo-ruddham: this nice instruction of Bhagavad-gītā becomes choked up by the time, kāla. The time, you know, everyone, time's business is to destroy. You construct very nice house—ten years or, say, five years after, you have to again repair it, because the time has destroyed it, so many things. So time . . . time destroys. This is the business of time, kāla.

And karma. Our karma, because we are always engaged in sinful activities, karma . . . kāla, karma, and tama, ignorance. Ignorance. Tama means darkness, and the symptom of tamo-guṇa is laziness and sleep. Those who are lazy and sleeping, you must know he's under the influence of tamo-guṇa. And rajo-guṇa: always acting foolishly. Just like these people are running. They're rajo-guṇa. But actually in this world there are two guṇas—raja and tama, ignorance and foolishly active. Foolish active is very dangerous. There are four classes: lazy intelligent, busy intelligent, and lazy foolish and active foolish. (laughter) The active foolish is the fourth-class man. So at the present moment they're very active, but they're all foolish. Therefore the world is in danger. Active foolishness. Foolish, if he stops, he does not work, it is better. But as soon as he becomes active he becomes more dangerous.