Prabhupāda: Then what is the value of your experiment? And still they are saying. This one point will kill them. Why do they not take this challenge? Huh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're rascals. There's no other answer. Only a rascal will go on maintaining that we can create life, and they never have.
Prabhupāda: And they are getting Nobel Prize. Just see. Such rascals. And we say on the authority of Bhagavad-gītā, apareyam. This is inferior and that is superior. So how you can make superior with inferior ingredients?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Impossible. Without superior touch the inferior cannot have any life.
Prabhupāda: That's a fact. They're seeing every moment.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Everything has movement. If it's matter it only moves because of some superior force, living force, pushing it or entering it or something.
Prabhupāda: The superior energy is utilizing inferior energy for His purpose. You are utilizing this inferior, the lump of matter, for serving my purpose. That is superior energy. It cannot use me for its purpose.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: It has no purpose.
Prabhupāda: No. I can use it for my purpose. Therefore I am superior. (aside) Come on.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, it's about three o'clock now.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Shall we go? . . . (indistinct)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I may have to go for that . . . I told Bhakti-prema Mahārāja I would meet him at three.
Prabhupāda: Go on.