Prabhupāda: You are God—limited. Limited God. You cannot maintain. Therefore you are limited. You can become God within your family, within your office, within your kingdom. You are not Supreme God. To a limited extent you are God. Because you have got the quality of God, so according to your capacity, within limited jurisdiction, you may be God. So dictionary is there. Vedic assertion is there. Logic is there. Science is there. Prove. Then your education will be successful. Avicyutaḥ arthaḥ kavibhir nirūpitaḥ. When you can prove this, then the meaning of your education will become . . . Avicyutaḥ arthaḥ kavibhir nirūpito yad-uttama-śloka-guṇānuvarṇanam (SB 1.5.22). To glorify the exalted position of God, that is wanted. Is it clear?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Bhagavad-gītā says, mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat (BG 7.7). That is Kṛṣṇa. That Supreme Being is Kṛṣṇa.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The origin of life is Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Aham ādir hi devānām (BG 10.2). From Brahmā we have come. And Brahmā is generated from Kṛṣṇa. Janmādy asya yataḥ (SB 1.1.1). Paraṁ satyaṁ dhīmahi. So let them come forward and discuss. So we have to prove to the world that it is not brainwashing; it is real knowledge. Why you should keep it suppressed and leave the people in ignorance? It is not your duty to bluff and cheat. That is not science. You are cheating people and getting Nobel Prize. That we have to . . . in a large scale.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: There will be immediate reaction from the team called "The Study of the Origin of Life from Chemicals." They have also an international society. They also publish a journal.
Prabhupāda: We have to defeat them.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So it will be just like a battle.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is a battle.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: There is also a Christian group . . .
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In Christianity, a Christian group, they also are trying to counteract modern science, but their approach is very superficial. They also think that somehow God created life, but the way their knowledge is based, it's very superficial, so the scientists don't take anything seriously. They also say that it's only about five thousand years ago that man was created, these groups.
Prabhupāda: Not thousand. Millions. The very beginning. God has brain; therefore we have got brain.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They call Creation Research Institute. They have office in San Diego.
Prabhupāda: There is no question of creation. God is not creator . . . er, not created. He is creator. And as long as God is there, the living beings . . . It is not uncertain. The nityaḥ, śāśvataḥ. Then these two words would not have been used if it is created. He never said.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: It is eternal.
Prabhupāda: Na jāyate na mriyate (BG 2.20). He never said. Cannot create. They want to create life. Rascal, you cannot do. Not at all. Hmm? You have got sanity?
Upendra: Śrīla Prabhupāda, can you sleep? It's time.
Prabhupāda: I can give you idea. Now you develop. Whatever ideas I am giving, it is nonrefutable idea, final.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: It also makes difficult for others to argue.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) When there is argument? Nonsense, how you can argue? And therefore you are rascal. And that is also forbidden. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet (CC Adi 17.308): "Things which are beyond your conception, don't foolishly argue, rascal." That will prove your rascaldom. Better accept what the authority says. It is beyond your conception, rascal. Why you are wasting time? That we want to say, that all of them are rascals, and they are simply wasting time by false idea. Cheating. You know, there are companies. They'll . . . They have got photographic studio. So they adjust their moon hoax. They'll help you. If you have got particular idea: they are going to the moon planet, Mars. Nowhere the rascals go. There is no knowledge. How they can go? Teeny, imperfect. So if we can prove that they have no knowledge of the universe, neither of the position of their . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Actually if these two things, that life comes from life and this concept of the universe, two points are clear, then everything is taken care of.
Prabhupāda: Very good. Their false propaganda . . . (pause) (break) Scientists, they should seriously charge for the prestige of their Vedic knowledge. "Yes, my . . . Yes, sir, you are stating." What is this nonsense? "You are creating some rascals?" "Yes, my lord." In the name of education.