Prabhupāda: No, now people are civilized. It is . . . but they want to do it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They are thinking. So . . .
Prabhupāda: But on the garb of civilized person it looks odd. Especially in America, when religious freedom is there. Otherwise they would have done. (break) . . . real peace formula, anyone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's rascal. This is very revolting. "Because I am not Kṛṣṇa con . . . because I am a rascal?" "Yes." (laughter)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, they don't like that.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) This is too much.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even you were challenging their gurus. That they get very angry at. Sadajī will always tell me, "I like your Prabhupāda very much, but he is always criticizing all of our gurus."
Rāmeśvara: Like Ramakrishna and this cheater magician.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "He calls them cheaters, rascals, rogues, in public." At all the pāṇḍāls you used to do that. Oh, they couldn't stand it.
Hari-śauri: That man that stopped me in the street . . .
Prabhupāda: What can I say? Kṛṣṇa says. I am simply a child, repeating the words of Kṛṣṇa.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, you always tell them that, "It is not what I'm saying, Kṛṣṇa is saying." But that gets them even angrier.
Prabhupāda: We are Kṛṣṇa conscious. We are obliged to say like that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That makes them even more angry.
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Actually Kṛṣṇa says. Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ (BG 7.15)—finished. (laughing) They cannot bring any defamation. We can say in the court that we are simply repeating like parrot. That's all. We have pledged to become parrot of Kṛṣṇa. That's all.