Rāmeśvara: What is that Naxal . . .?
Prabhupāda: Naxalite means . . .
Gargamuni: Terrorists. Communists.
Prabhupāda: Regular dacoits, thieves, rogues. "Pay me; otherwise kill you." And if you don't—"Kill you." That's all.
Rāmeśvara: That's the trend, then, everywhere, because unemployment is increasing.
Prabhupāda: And especially in your country it will be dangerous because these blacks, if they don't get employment, they will create havoc, these blacks. And they are not civilized. They want money, and if they don't get money, then they will create havoc.
Gargamuni: Money and liquor.
Hari-śauri: Yes. If they do get money, they just buy it.
Prabhupāda: Money they get. But they can live. But there is no culture; they want liquor. So these rascals do not know how we are making human civilization. They do not see it, that without any fixed income we are maintaining such a huge establishment all over the world, without any fixed income. How we are doing? We are not thieves, we are not rogues. We are all gentlemen.
Gargamuni: In India they say the CIA is funding you.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They may say anything, but actually what we are?
Rāmeśvara: In America they are supporting the unemployed through federal and state welfare, which is paid for by tax money. So the more the unemployment increases, the more the taxes . . .
Prabhupāda: Taxes increase.
Rāmeśvara: . . . have to increase. Otherwise these people will starve.
Gargamuni: And thousands of people live off the welfare checks.
Rāmeśvara: There is big scandals in America about cheating on the welfare rolls to get free money from the government.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: That's a big scandal in America. Very difficult to control, because there are so many people involved.
Hari-śauri: I remember in England that was a big thing too, the welfare state. So many people, they're not working, and they're getting more money from the government by not working than they would by going to work. So they . . .
Gargamuni: Years ago there was a scandal in the States, and in the Midwest they found a family who was receiving a total of thirty thousand dollars a year in welfare checks.
Prabhupāda: Just see.