Prabhupāda: I say that controller is Kṛṣṇa. Now you may disagree with me. But I have got evidence from the śāstra that Kṛṣṇa is accepted by all brahmins in India.
Krishna Tiwari: Oh, I accept Him too.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that He is the supreme controller. I have got that authority—Rāmānujācārya, he is a brahmin; Madhvācārya, he is a brahmin. Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He is a brahmin. They're born in brahmin family. Śaṅkarācārya, he was a brāhmaṇa.
Krishna Tiwari: I know all of them.
Prabhupāda: So all of them have agreed. So in my background, we have got so many authorities, but when you say, you have no background. That is the difference between you and me.
Krishna Tiwari: Swāmījī, our śāstra also say that, "You seek and you'll find." And, and, and "The person who seeketh himself . . ."
Prabhupāda: No.
Krishna Tiwari: ". . . will find, will have a better chance of finding Me."
Prabhupāda: No.
Śyāmasundara: Where is that said?
Prabhupāda: We don't agree to that. We don't agree.