Paramahaṁsa: Not too many flowering varieties.
Prabhupāda: No, not speaking of flowering. I mean to say varieties, plants and creepers, two millions. Lakṣa-viṁśati. Ten lakhs equal to one million, and viṁśati, twenty lakhs.
Hari-śauri: There was one newspaper article in the paper I was reading. They were advertising a new book about the evolution of man. And they were saying that there was approximately two million varieties of life on this planet. This was the calculation of the scientists.
Prabhupāda: Two millions? No. 8,400,000.
Śrutakīrti: You were saying the other day that all the species of life are mentioned in the Padma-Purāṇa.
Śrutakīrti: They're all given account of.
Prabhupāda: They have given separate account, or only on the total?
Hari-śauri: Only approximation.
Śrutakīrti: An estimate. (break)
Hari-śauri: ...a drawing of this so-called missing link between the evolution from ape to man. They have given one drawing of a species looking like a man but hunched like an ape. And they're claiming this is...
Prabhupāda: Where they have got it?
Hari-śauri: ...this type of personality was existing millions of years ago. (break)
Amogha: Of the 400,000 human species, what is the distinguishing characteristic that makes one different from another? How could we recognize them? Or could we?
Prabhupāda: You have not seen varieties of men?
Prabhupāda: Then, what is the...
Amogha: Well is it divided by country, or within one country there are many species?
Prabhupāda: You are taking of country, but the śāstra takes of the planets, not of the country. Your idea is very crippled: "country," "national." But śāstra is not... There is no such thing as national. They take the whole universe as a whole. They consider from that angle of vision. These crippled ideas, "state," "national," has come later on. There was no such thing previously. One planet or universe, like that. Just like last night the girl was astonished that "How this planet can be governed by one king?" It was being actually done. And the whole universe is being governed by Brahmā, one person. So one must know how to govern.
Devotee (1): We can see, Śrīla Prabhupāda, by the distribution of wealth and minerals in each loka, in each planet, it is meant to be governed by one ruler. One place there is gold, one place grain to grow. Is this true?
Prabhupāda: No. Everywhere there is everything, maybe proportionately in different quantities.
Hari-śauri: Is that governing that Brahmā does in the universe, he does that in relationship with all the other demigods, like they are departmental heads? So he is not personally directing every single thing.
Prabhupāda: Yes, he is given in charge. Just like we have got different GBCs for different jobs. Similarly, they are doing their duty nicely. All these planets are the different residential quarter of different demigods. They are controlling the whole universal affairs. In comparison to them, this human being is nothing. We are controlled; we are not controller. That they do not realize. The modern civilization, they do not realize. Although they are being controlled they do not recognize it. That is the defect.