Prabhupāda: Just . . . that is a psychology. I am not going out. But if I am ordered that, "You cannot go out," then I become mad. I am not going out of this house, but if I have to maintain this idea that, "I cannot go out," then I'll become mad. I know that I can go out whenever I like, but due to my diseased condition, I cannot go. That is another thing. But if I am able to go out and I am ordered not to go out, then I will become mad. This is psychology. So this is the position of the society—very, very bad. Our mission is para-upakāra, Caitanya Mahāprabhu's mission. So if we actually want . . . this is very good opportunity to train up from the very beginning to create vidvān, bhaktimān, jñānavān. Others also, they may be given opportunity. There is everything in the śāstra. We are presenting Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa has given all direction in every field of activity. So let us carry out the orders of Kṛṣṇa as it is, as far as possible. That is our duty. Now these my programs, they're also taking the concentrating people in the village, government?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's it.
Prabhupāda: That is required. But it will be a failure unless they are taken to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. That . . . like Gandhi's failure was there. He did not take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Because the material civilization means pravṛtti-mārga, and spiritual civilization, nivṛtti-mārga. Pravṛttir eṣā bhūtānāṁ nivṛttis tu mahā-phalām (Manu-saṁhitā). So pravṛtti . . . suppose he is in the village. He has to work with plow. And in the city, Goodyear Tire Company offering him twenty rupees per day. So he'll see that "What is the use of working with this plow? Let me go to Goodyear Tire." Then here the business will be finished. That is the position of India. So much land is lying vacant because there is no worker, and all the rascals have gone to New Delhi or big cities. And overpopulation? "Give them sterilization." Here there is no men to work, and they're sterilization. How the leaders . . . and who is leader? Another debauch number one, Gandhi, Mrs . . . and she has produced a Sanjay Gandhi. Very precarious si . . .
So there will be no scarcity of simple living and eating. We shall give nice food, milk, and place. So bring student and teach them. Then gradually increase. They will preach throughout the whole world. The defect of the society, modern: the rascals are worshiped. Cāṇakya Paṇḍita has given all in his moral instructions. He said, mūrkhā yatra na pūjyante: "Where rascals are not worshiped . . ." But at the present moment rascals are worshiped. And he says. He was experienced politician. He said, mūrkhā yatra na pūjyante dhānyaṁ yatra susañcitam: "In the society where rascals are not worshiped and food grains are properly stocked . . ." Mūrkhā yatra na pūjyante dhānyaṁ yatra susañcitam. Another . . . dampatyo kalaho nāsti: "And where there is no quarrel between husband and wife," tatra śrīḥ svayam āgatāḥ, "all fortune will come there automatically." Svayam āgatāḥ. You haven't got to pray, "Mother Lakṣmī, please come to my house." She'll come. Three things wanted: You should not give unnecessarily honor to rascals, and you should keep your food grains very nicely, and don't quarrel, husband and wife. Then you become fortunate. Just see. Check how these instructions are there.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Nowadays none of those three are available. There is divorce, there is shortage of food, and all rascals are worshiped.
Prabhupāda: That's it. If there is no quarrel between husband and wife, you can be happy underneath a tree. You know Nala-Damayantī?
Indian man (1): Eh?
Prabhupāda: Nala-Damayantī?
Indian man (1): Yeah.
Prabhupāda: They were happily living by covering their one cloth. Still, they were living peacefully. They were so poverty-stricken. Rāja Hariścandra lost everything, but because there was peace between husband and . . . they were living. Viśvāmitra saw, separately. There are so many instances. That is lost now, to live peacefully, husband and wife. Throughout the whole world became sour. And still in India, "Eh, I have no other . . ." There is stock of grain. So how many people have got stock of grain nowadays? Dhānyaṁ yatra susañcitam (Nīti Śāstra). (laughs) Nobody.