Indian man (1): (Bengali with Prabhupāda)
Prabhupāda: (Bengali) Just become Prahlāda Mahārāja. Just go, persecution like Prahlāda Mahārāja. Then you talk of. You are not Prahlāda Mahārāja. You are ordinary person. Your business is mām ekam śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66). Kṛṣṇa never said, "He Prahlāda Mahārāja, God kambha(?), so you also worship kambha." Never said, Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa says, mām ekam. That is Gītā.
Indian man (1): That's right, but Kṛṣṇa . . .
Prabhupāda: But Prahlāda Mahārāja never worshiped kambha.
Indian man (1): No, never.
Prabhupāda: But he knew that Kṛṣṇa is everywhere. So that vision is possible by Kṛṣṇa . . . Prahlāda Mahārāja, not by you or me.
Indian man (1): No, that is, mean . . . Kṛṣṇa is everywhere.
Prabhupāda: We cannot bring Prahlāda Mahārāja in ordinary things.
Indian man (1): No, that's true. That theory is: Kṛṣṇa is everywhere.
Prabhupāda: Prahlāda Mahārāja underwent so much persecution. He was never disturbed, because he was confident that, "Kṛṣṇa will give me protection. Never mind." That is another position. Mahā-bhāgavata. We are kaniṣṭha-adhikārīs. We have to worship Deity.
- arcāyām eva haraye
- pūjāṁ yaḥ śraddhayehate
- na tad-bhakteṣu cānyeṣu
- sa bhaktaḥ prākṛtaḥ smṛtaḥ
- (SB 11.2.47)
We are in the prākṛta stage. We cannot go to the stage of Prahlāda Mahārāja.
Indian man (1): No, that is very difficult. That is very, very difficult.
Prabhupāda: Not difficult, but it requires elevation. So we should not imitate.