Prabhupāda: That is the difficulty, that those who are foolish people, they are taking leading part. That is the defect of modern civilization. One who has no knowledge, he is taking the part of a teacher. So hodgepodge. Must be. He is speaking something hodgepodge. Just like this, one does not know what is Vedānta and he is reading Vedānta. It is very simple truth. Veda means knowledge, and anta means end. There must be something ultimate, goal. But the modern process is that we go on unlimitedly, but never we come to the end. Is it not like that? What do you think?
Kīrtanānanda: Yes. It's a fact, no conclusion.
Prabhupāda: Fate, motorcar.
Brahmānanda: It is a graveyard, automobile graveyard.
Ravindra-svarūpa: This is the end of their knowledge, a pile of junk.
Kīrtanānanda: Building and breaking.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) . . . is spent up in breaking and building. That's all.
Ravindra-svarūpa: That means passion and ignorance, but no goodness.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Ravindra-svarūpa: That means that there's passion and there's ignorance, but there's no goodness.