Guest (3): Do you think, Swāmījī, the scientists would be able to create life as they. . .
Prabhupāda: That I was discussing, that is foolishness. That is—I was discussing—life is never created; life is already there. The body is created. So they are going on on a wrong theory.
Guest (1): I think our definition of life is a little different.
Prabhupāda: You may define differently; that is your concern.
Guest (1): We are talking about a protoplasm, something that moves. It may not have the soul, it may not have any. . .
Prabhupāda: "May not have," that means you have no real knowledge, "may not have." "May not have," that is not knowledge. I say "may have," then what is the difference between you and me? "May not have," that is not knowledge. That is simply suggestion, speculation.
Guest (1): Want me to give examples. . .
Prabhupāda: Therefore we have to take knowledge from the perfect. Kṛṣṇa says, "Yes, dehino 'smin yathā dehe (BG 2.13)." You have to take that knowledge. You cannot say you are perfect and you'll say "may not have." And what is this knowledge, "may not have"? Say definitely and prove it, scientifically. That is knowledge. "Perhaps," "may not," "may be," these are not knowledge.
Guest (1): Just to give one example, these days the science experiments have conclusively done that a particular egg can be—in the body of the womb—can be manipulated into either a male or a female.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. We say the soul is within the body, so you can make it male or female, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We are not concerned with male and female; we are concerned with the soul.
Guest (1): Science does manipulate life.
Prabhupāda: Maybe. Even if you manipulate, then what you have done? You cannot create the soul. That is not possible. If you manipulate life, then give the dead body again energy to rise up. Then we shall admit that you can manipulate. Otherwise it is false. If you are so expert in manipulation, then give the dead body life again. That is my request. If depend on others and you manipulating, this false knowledge will not help.