Indian man (5): Tam eva śaraṇaṁ gaccha sarva-bhāvena bhārata (BG 18.62).
Prabhupāda: Yes. So they'll not do this. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam . . . (BG 18.66). They'll not do it. They're determined to suffer. So what can be done?
Indian man (5): Sva-dharme nidhanaṁ śreyaḥ para-dharmo bhayāvahaḥ (BG 3.35).
Prabhupāda: But he does not know what is the sva-dharma. Sva-dharma, that is for the lower stage. Sva-dharme nidhanaṁ śreyaḥ. You have got a brahminical body. All right, discharge your duties as brāhmaṇa. But he's not doing that.
Indian man (5): So he's not performing his sva-dharma.
Prabhupāda: No.
Indian man (5): And that's why it is dangerous for him.
Prabhupāda: It is dangerous. He's already . . . a brāhmaṇa is doing śūdra's business. Therefore this stress has been given. You have become brāhmaṇa-like, you do like, act like brāhmaṇa. Janma-karma, uh, guṇa-karma. So you have got good qualification of the brāhmaṇas. Now act like brāhmaṇa. Then your life is succ . . .
Varṇāśrama-vibhāgaśaḥ, svanuṣṭhitasya dharmasya saṁsiddhir hari-toṣaṇam (SB 1.2.13). You act as a brāhmaṇa and satisfy the Lord, Supreme. Varṇāśramācaravatāṁ puruṣeṇa paraḥ pumān, viṣṇur ārādhyate (CC Madhya 8.58). If you strictly act as a brāhmaṇa or as a kṣatriya, as a vaiśya, as a śūdra, it doesn't matter. Sva-karmaṇā tam abhyarcya (BG 18.46). If, by your action, as it is described in the śāstra, the Supreme Lord is satisfied, then your life is successful.
But they are not doing even sva-dharma, bodily. Therefore the ultimate solution is sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66). Even sva-dharma. "Just surrender unto Me. I'll give you protection." Sarva-dharmān means sva-dharma, including that, "You have to give up your sva-dharma. Don't . . . you cannot act as a brāhmaṇa, you cannot act as a kṣatriya, neither you are brāhmaṇa or kṣatriya. All right, whatever dharma you have got, give it up. Just surrender unto Me. I'll give you protection." Mām eva ye prapadyante māyām etām . . . This is the . . . (indistinct)
Indian man (5): (Hindi)
(Hindi conversation)
Prabhupāda: Who is practicing this? Guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ (BG 4.13). He cannot be called a brāhmaṇa unless he acts according to his guṇa. If he's acting differently, he should be . . . (break) . . . utilized by the liberated person. Still, we can use it, provided we stop this process of animal killing. Then it will be very easier. This medicine . . . the doors will be . . . vinā paśughnāt (SB 10.1.4). Therefore whoever comes to us to become our student, our first proposition is that, "You should give up these four principles: illicit sex, animal-eating, gambling and intoxication, up to drinking tea, coffee, cigarette." This is our condition.
So the more you practice to these four prohibitive regulation, then you realize. Śrotramāno 'bhirāmāt. It will be very pleasing to the ear and to the mind. And unless anything is very pleasing, you cannot continue. Artificially, you can chant for few minutes. But if it becomes pleasing to you, then you can chant twenty-four hours, kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ. Caitanya Mahāprabhu advised, kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ.
- tṛṇād api sunīcena
- taror api sahiṣṇunā
- amāninā mānadena
- kīrtanīyaḥ sadā hariḥ
- (CC Adi 17.31)
So this is the only remedy, Hare Kṛṣṇa. Therefore you'll find all our students, they have got these beads. We have got these bead. Either we shall chant Hare Kṛṣṇa or we shall talk of Kṛṣṇa. That is also chanting. When you talk of Kṛṣṇa, that is also chanting. Kīrtana, kīrtana means kīrtayati, talking, speaking.