Prabhupāda: Īśāvāsyam idaṁ . . . everything has got control of the Supreme. Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvam (ISO 1). How you can say it is material when it is . . . it can be used . . . there is another verse. What is called? Prapañcikatayā buddhyā hari-sambandha-vastunaḥ. Everything has got relation with the Supreme because it is a production of the supreme energy. So everything is connected. So:
- prāpañcikatayā buddhyā
- hari-sambandha-vastunaḥ
- mumukṣubhiḥ parityāgo
- phalgu-vairāgya kathyate
- (Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.2.256)
If we do not take everything in that relation that, "Everything belongs to Kṛṣṇa. Everything has got relationship with Kṛṣṇa," and if we simply give it up, "Oh, this is material. This is material . . ."
Dr. Patel: But one who, those days, vāsudeva idam sarvam . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . has got relation of Kṛṣṇa. Therefore everything should be dovetailed in the service of Kṛṣṇa. And that is real understanding.
(break) . . . ānakūlyena kṛṣṇānu-śīlanaṁ (CC Madhya 19.167). (break) . . . place, you'll find simply drunkards lying down on the street. I lived there for some time.
Girirāja: "Nowhere in the Newsweek article is the quackery of these signs . . ."
Prabhupāda: But they were very much respectful to me. On my door they are lying down and passing urine. As soon as I will come, "Come on. Come on. Come on, sir. Come on," respectful. They were very respectful.