Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, they're starting to get wise to him now.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're starting to catch on to him now. And when they do it's going to be a big scandal, because he really made it into the American . . . all over the world, but especially in America. He even got into the Army. They were teaching Transcendental Meditation in the Army. Even in schools . . . he had it in public schools. He said: "It is not at all religious. It's science, and it should be taught. Just like you teach gymnastics, you should also teach this." So if this becomes exposed, oh . . . it'll also hurt us, indirectly, but actually it'll be good for us. But naturally they'll think that, "All of these groups are now bogus." He's very much accepted in the public mind. But now the Congressional committees are investigating him.
Prabhupāda: And our is accepted.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Ours is very accepted.
Prabhupāda: That's a great achievement.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: That should be, this Congressional . . . who has got so many temples?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, they have a lot of offices, but they don't have any temples where Deities are worshiped. None of them. They don't touch Deity worship.
Prabhupāda: Rogues and thieves, what they know about Deity worship?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Neither they have any books.
Prabhupāda: Simply words, long, long.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Words. And promises.
Prabhupāda: And cheating. Cheating. Yes, everyone with common sense can understand that, "What philosophy?" Here they see practically character, philosophy, devotion, faith, strict discipline. Any gentleman will appreciate.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, the gentlemen are very much impressed, especially, Mr. Mokta, people like that. They can see.
Prabhupāda: And Indians are appreciating that, "Foreigners, they have taken to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, not Indians."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: For the first time they can see that the foreigners are appreciating India's culture, not trying to squash it.
Prabhupāda: And practically applying their life, not that simply . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Official.
Prabhupāda: . . . official.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There's no doubt. And it is all due to your credit. Single-handedly, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Even now everything is being done strictly by your instruction and guidance. The only . . .
Prabhupāda: Now I am getting old, old age, not good health, so try to give me relief. Otherwise it is too much. Brain has to be taxed. But if my foreign business is there, if you tax my brain in this way, that will be suffer. So try to give me relief from this managerial . . . (pause) Still I can hint like this. But where is the work going on?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, you have to just point it out to me like that.