Prabhupāda: That is important. Otherwise every work is preaching. See that everyone is engaged. There was an advertisement by the railway department: their monogram was a wheel of carriage, and they have written that every employee of the railway should see that the wheel is running on. Wheel is running on. Now suppose in the office the clerks are working, so how he will see the wheel is running on? Because in the office of railway there is some complaint, there is some claim, there so many things . . . but that is depending on that wheel. So they should expedite their business so that wheel may not stop; it must go on. It is very nice instruction. So the wheel is going on. Suppose some station has asked for ten wagons immediately, and that requires the sanction of the divisional superintendent. That is in the office. So the clerk should help the progress that immediately the sanction is done. Then the wheel will go on. Do you understand? So everyone can help that the railway wheel is going on, although apparently it will appear that, "What this clerk has to do with the wheel going on?" Is it clear?
Bhagavān: So there's so much to do in Kṛṣṇa's service, everyone can be engaged in some . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes, that everyone should know . . . suppose one is engaged in cooking prasāda. You should see that nice prasāda is served to the worker, quickly, so they can take prasāda, be healthy and go on preaching. So he is helping preaching by cooking. Just like you are walking and the brain is also working, "Go this side, go that side, the car is coming." Brain says, the . . . "Leg, come this side." Everyone is working. The leg is working, the brain is working, the hand is working, the tongue is working. But the business of the tongue and business of the leg is different. The aim being . . . the central point being Kṛṣṇa, to help, to serve Him, then everything is work, absolute. The Māyāvādī philosophers, they cannot understand it. They think that, "Kṛṣṇa is working like ordinary man. How He can become God? It is māyā. Therefore Kṛṣṇa is also māyā." Therefore we called them Māyāvādī.
Bhagavān: A leader must be very expert so that people will be happy in their engagement.
Prabhupāda: Everyone should be expert. The leaders must be expert and the worker must be expert so that they may follow the instruction of the leader. If the leader says something and the workers, "Hmm, I shall consider it later on," then how the leader will execute his leadership? Both of them should be cooperating and know that "We are all working for Kṛṣṇa." Somebody was coming back and going . . . coming this side or . . . our men? No.
Devotees: No. (break)
Ātreya Ṛṣi: . . . woman.
Prabhupāda: Ah?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: There are so many . . . so few compared to other religions, but we make so big propaganda always . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: . . . because . . .
Prabhupāda: It is admitted. Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is admitted.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Because we are not lazy like Māyāvādīs.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Ahaṁ brahmāsmi. "I have become now Brahma—stop work. Eat and make your belly . . ." You see how Māyāvādī sannyāsī . . . ah. (Prabhupāda gestures; devotees laugh) They think that "Now I have become Brahma, I have nothing to do. (laughs) I have become Nārāyaṇa." "If you've got nothing to do, then why you are eating?" And for one cāpāṭi you'll find there are many Māyāvādīs. They're busy simply collecting cāpāṭis. (laughter) (aside) So what is the time of your starting?
Gurudāsa: We're starting at nine.