Prabhupāda: All the animals are freely rotating.
Buddhist Monk (1): Or they think their life is in danger.
Buddhist Monk (1): If one radiates love and kindness . . .
Prabhupāda: That is another thing. Defense is allowed to everyone. You must defend. That is another thing. But ordinarily, not that because a lion has got jaws and teeth, therefore he's simply jumping over. Not like that. Even people have experienced that when the, these ferocious animals, they are not hungry, they don't attack. They don't attack.
Haṁsadūta: They don't bother.
Prabhupāda: No. Or if you keep a pet lion, give him sumptuously to eat, he'll not . . . that is experienced. I have seen in the World Fair in, in . . . one man was keeping a lion and a tiger, and playing just like with dog. Just like sometimes dogs, they pounce over the master. Same thing. They were doing like that. I have seen it. They have tamed the lion and tiger like that.
Buddhist Monk (1): Even the carnivores could be trained to be vegetarians.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Buddhist Monk (1): They could easily be. It is only a habit and custom.
Prabhupāda: But their nature is to eat meat. You have to give him. That is different thing. But they can be tamed. But not very trustworthy. (laughter)
Buddhist Monk (1): If they get a little irritated and hungry, they may go to gather.
Prabhupāda: No, if you give them nice food, they'll never attack you.
Haṁsadūta: In the Bible also, in the very beginning page, there's a verse. After God created everything, the animals and the trees and everything, then He gave allotment of food to the human society. It says very plainly that, "The seed-bearing plants and trees of the earth shall be your meat," or "shall be your food."
Prabhupāda: Just see.
Haṁsadūta: And it says nothing . . .
Haṁsadūta: It says nothing about . . . yes.
Buddhist Monk (1): Yes, but later it goes to add something saying: "Meat is meat unto you," you know. There your difficulty comes in. Well, Isaiah in the Bible, one of five prophets in the Bible, he says: "Peace will come on earth when even the feroci . . ."
(break) May you have long, healthy life.
Prabhupāda: What is your age?
Buddhist Monk (1): I am fifty-nine years.
Buddhist Monk (1): We say, arogya parama labha santuṣṭi paramam dhanam, viśvasa parama narthi nirvāṇa parama sva-dharma.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya.