Rāmeśvara: This Maharishi is using "American wealth, Maharishi culture." He's not doing anything valuable with his money.
Hari-śauri: He's increasing his own name and fame.
Prabhupāda: (to passing Indian) Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Indian: (Bengali)
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) No, people have become so dull-headed that they are believing all these nonsense.
Hari-śauri: It is brainwashing.
Prabhupāda: No. The brainwashing . . . They are making brainwashing, that "From garbage, newspapers, scrap, they'll make food."
Hari-śauri: Oh, scientists. Acchā.
Prabhupāda: And you said that they are drinking their own urine?
Hari-śauri: Yes. The astronauts.
Prabhupāda: It is a fact?
Rāmeśvara: Yes. They recycled it.
Hari-śauri: They recycled it. After they passed urine, they put it through a machine that was supposed to purify it, and then they could drink it again.
Prabhupāda: And still, they have to go to the Mars. Just see how degraded they have become. By drinking urine, they are going to Mars and bringing report. All false propaganda to keep the prestige of the scientists.
Hari-śauri: Yes. It's just a colossal hoax.
Rāmeśvara: No, they will go on and on with their bluffs. They will try to bluff that they are creating life, just like they've bluffed they've gone to other planets.
Prabhupāda: Everything bluff. I never believed them. I never believed them. In my Easy Journey to Other . . . I have, ten years before, I have already rejected. Simply bluff.
Rāmeśvara: Yes. You've written many times in your books that we will never accept this, that they have gone to other planets and found them empty.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. So both Arundhati and Pālikā, they're in period. So this girl . . .? Anu . . .
Hari-śauri: Abhirama's wife.
Prabhupāda: Wife. She knows?
Hari-śauri: She knows how to cook, yes. She got trained up by Pālikā.
Prabhupāda: In the cooker. And she'll cook today?
Hari-śauri: Yes.
Prabhupāda: This was suitable.
Rāmeśvara: What to do? Every month this happens. They both at the same time every month?
Hari-śauri: Not usually.
Prabhupāda: No . . . So the today's standard is nice. So she must take instruction or you do it. This was all right. We shall continue this standard for the time being. Yes. (pause) So if he's not come back, then wherefrom they got this puffed rice?
Hari-śauri: Well, that man from Haridaspur went and got that. That Prabhu Svarūpa, he went and got the murī.
Prabhupāda: Wherefrom?
Hari-śauri: I don't know. I couldn't make head nor tail of what he was saying.
Prabhupāda: Ask him. Is it fresh?
Hari-śauri: He just said he went out and begged some from somewhere. I don't know.
Prabhupāda: Oh, begged from some house.
Hari-śauri: (laughs) That's what I made out from him. But this boy should be back very soon. The boy that went out to do the shopping should be back very soon. They took a van.
Rāmeśvara: There was one question I had, Śrīla Prabhupāda. You have written in the third volume of the First Canto different instructions for the age of Kali, how there'll be compulsory marriage and so on and so on. And you mentioned about the gold standard, that this is very bad, this artificial standard of monetary exchange.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. It is very bad.
Rāmeśvara: In the future this is something that we should try to correct.
Prabhupāda: You should introduce coin, real money.
Hari-śauri: Real gold coins. No paper.
Prabhupāda: Anyone has got money . . . It is fact. And what is this nonsense, keeping some paper and thinking that he has got money? How cheating it is going on, from government's side. And therefore artificial inflation. You can print, so the price is increased. Because you haven't got to pay him real money—you print and pay him—and he will ask, "Give me this money. Then I'll supply." "All right, take." You print and pay.
Rāmeśvara: It's definitely a means that the government has for controlling. Because they can withdraw money, pull it back out of circulation by increasing the interest the banks give, or they can get more money in . . .
Prabhupāda: Anything done artificially.
Rāmeśvara: Yes. They control the amount of money, interest on loans. It's all standardized from what they call the Federal Reserve system. This was introduced during the Depression by the bankers.
Prabhupāda: Whatever they do, when you receive money in the paper it has no value. Bad money. It is bad money. It is not good money.