Jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi. Jagad-aṇḍa means universe, and koṭi means millions. So there are millions and millions of universes, and in each universe there are millions and millions of planets. Yasya prabhā prabhavato jagad-aṇḍa-koṭi-koṭiṣv aśeṣa-vasudhādi-vibhūti-bhinnam (Bs 5.40). And each planet is differently constituted. The atmosphere of each planet is different from another. This is God's creation. Now as there are innumerable universes, there may be innumerable suns also.
Man (2): Yeah, but they say that's in this universe . . .
Prabhupāda: Just try to understand. Because there are innumerable universes, and in each and every universe there is a sun, there is a moon, there is Venus, everything, so under the circumstances, as we accept innumerable universes, automatically we accept innumerable suns. So where is the difference between the astrologer and our . . .
Man (2): The astronomers also accept that there are innumerable universes, and they say that in each one they have millions and millions of self-luminous stars, and in this one also, but you say that in this one there is only the sun.
Prabhupāda: But do you think that I have to accept the astronomers blindly?
Man (2): Well, they say . . .
Prabhupāda: No. Why? Why? If there are innumerable suns, why they are not present at night? Why you are suffering from want of one sun?
Man (2): Because we are much further away from the others than our particular one.
Prabhupāda: No. At least, we are not able to bring them into service. We are depending only on one sun in this universe. You may say there are innumerable suns, but why the astronomers or the scientists could not take advantage of another sun at night? Why it is darkness?
Man (2): Because we're much closer to this one than the others. We're much closer to this one.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is . . . What is that?
Madhudviṣa: He says that the earth is much more closer to this sun than it is to other suns.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, we do not take. But we, according to our Vedic information, this is only one universe, which is within our vision, this sky, the dome. That is one universe. The other universes are outside this universe. That is the Vedic information.
Devotee: Are there any other questions?
Man (3): Each of us have come here tonight sort of looking for a bit of a miracle or a bit of a statement that can stamp us, to hold us, to illuminate us. (devotees laugh) Now, you travel in a spirit. Can you tell us the wonderful feeling of enlightenment to enter this spirit? We don't know how to exactly enter this spirit and travel as you travel.
Prabhupāda: That I am distributing. You chant at home, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare, and see the result. (laughter) It is not difficult. If there is no expenditure, there is no loss if you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra and you see the result at home. You haven't got to travel. You sit down at your home and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Man (3): The word travel . . . Illumination. Each of us wants to know that beautiful, glorious feeling and how we gain it.
Prabhupāda: That glorious . . . First of all we must know what we are. The mistake is that we are accepting this body as ourself. I am thinking Indian, you are thinking Australian, he is thinking American, he is thinking Muhammadan, he is thinking Hindu. In this way, because we are thinking different way, we have got difference of opinion. But as soon as we come to the spiritual platform, there will be no more different opinion. That we are trying, that come to the spiritual platform. Then everything will go on. The first lesson of coming to the spiritual platform is to understand that "I am not this body." This the first lesson of spiritual understanding.
Man (4): I've read about Hubbard's Scientology, and a lot of the writings that Hubbard writes sound a lot like the theory of Hare Kṛṣṇa. Is there any parallel at all between the two, or have you taken any opinion on side(?), both your cases? You know anything about that?
Madhudviṣa: He is saying is there any similarities between the philosophy of Scientology . . .
Prabhupāda: What is that Scientology? I do not know. (laughter) (applause) I do not know. Can you explain what is this Scientology?
Man (4): It's just a teaching that's supposed to be fairly widespread. (laughter)
Madhudviṣa: Yes?
Man (5): Can you give any explanation about the spiritual, around the earth? If they are all luminous?
Madhudviṣa: He wants to know something about psychic phenomena.
Prabhupāda: Psychic phenomena is the subtle materialism. There are two material conditions: one gross condition, one subtle condition. Gross condition is created by the five elements—earth, water, fire, air and ether. And the subtle elements are mind, intelligence and ego, false ego. So all these eight elements, they are material. One section is gross, and another section is subtle. So the psychology means the subtle material elements. It is material; it is not spiritual. It is subtle.
Man (6): At rebirth do we all return as a male if the previous existence was a male, or do we change? (laughter)
Madhudviṣa: He is asking when you take birth again do you take birth as the same sex, or do you change your sex?
Prabhupāda: No, no. Just like you change your body, you change your shirts, it is not necessary that you will get the same type of shirt. No. That you . . . Just like if your present shirt you want to change, and you go to the store and you purchase another shirt and coat, that will depend on your choice and the price you can pay. It is not necessarily that you will get the same type of shirt and coat. Therefore, when we change our body, there is no guarantee that we get the same type of body. A male can get a female body. There are many instances like that. And a female can get the male body. A man can get animal body, like that. So in the Bhagavad-gītā it is said, dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13), echange of body. But what kind of body you are going to change, that will depend on your own work.