Prabhupāda: . . . another example. Asaṅgo 'yaṁ puruṣaḥ (Bṛhad-araṅyaka Upaniṣad 4.3.15). It is said that this living entity is untouched by this material body. Asaṅgo 'yaṁ puruṣaḥ. So the example is given that the moon reflected on water appears to be moving, but moon is separate from that movement. Doctor kidhar gaya, dekha nahi aaj? . . . (indistinct) (Where is the Doctor today? Haven't you seen him?) . . . (indistinct) . . . (japa) Go on . . . (indistinct) . . . (break) . . . good example. Unnecessarily he thinks that, "I belong to this country. I belong to this society." That means he creates another body. And if he knows perfectly well that "I do not belong to any of these bodies," that is brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā (BG 18.54). That teaching required, that every being is unattached to this body. Therefore yasyātma-buddhiḥ kuṇape . . . anyone who is maintaining himself under bodily concept of life, he is no better than the animals. (break) The demonic person does not accept any good lesson. Mūrkhāyopadeṣo hi prakopāya na śāntaye (Hitopadeśa 3.4). Because he is foolish, if you give him good advice, he will be angry. Still, we have to do that.
Girirāja: But it is better to find some innocent persons. But for preaching it is better to find innocent persons.
Prabhupāda: Yes, better field, those who are innocent. That is the duty of the preacher, four things: īśvare tad-adhīneṣu baliśeṣu dviṣatsu ca (SB 11.2.46). The preacher should see four things. First of all īśvara, the Supreme Person, God. So that vision must be there. He knows what is īśvara, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then tad-adhīneṣu, those who have taken shelter of that īśvara. That means devotees. Tad-adhīneṣu. And then baliśeṣu. Baliśeṣu means those who are innocent, have no sufficient knowledge. Innocent. And dviṣatsu. And there is always a class of men who are envious of God, dviṣat. Dviṣat means envious. So a preacher has to see these four classes of men, or three classes. One, īśvara, and the other three classes. So he has to behave like that. To behave with īśvara-prema, how to love, that is his business—how to increase love for the Supreme. Prema. Maitrī, how to make friendship with the devotees. And to the innocent—kṛpā, how to become merciful. And to the envious—upekṣa, negligence, not to talk with them. Four behaviors. Īśvare tad-a . . . this is madhyama adhikārī. And the position of the preacher is madhyama adhikārī. Therefore they have to point out, "Here is a jealous man, envious man." But people do not want it. They say, "Why you are pointing out? Why you are pointing out?" But this is business of the preacher. Otherwise how he will preach?
Girirāja: They want to be artificially the uttama adhikārī, to see everyone as nice.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes, everyone as nice, except himself. (break) Uttama adhikārī vision, that everyone is nice, then the preacher is also nice. Why you find out fault with the preacher? So imitation uttama adhikārī will not help. (break)
Girirāja: ". . . those who are demoniac or atheistic by nature can hardly assimilate any good instruction, however authorized it may be. That is the difference between a demigod and demon." (break)
Prabhupāda: Therefore, at the present moment, bhogaiśvarya-prasaktānām tayāpahṛta-cetasām (BG 2.44). Demons, they are too much attached to material enjoyment, bhoga and aiśvarya. So they cannot take to it. Therefore our general principle is to perform saṅkīrtana, not to talk philosophy. When one is interested, then he can talk philosophy. Otherwise this talk should be amongst inner circles, with the students and the teacher, those who are submissive. Otherwise it should be avoided. It will create misunderstanding.