Prabhupāda: So, I am on the deathbed. I may go away at any moment. Then... Now it is up to you to give protection to the sanctity of our institution. Who else is there from the GBC?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Svarūpa Dāmodara, Jagadīśa.
Prabhupāda: Svarūpa Dāmodara?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's not here right now, but they are here in Vṛndāvana.
Prabhupāda: He has gone to Delhi?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He came back last night.
Prabhupāda: Oh. So think over. I am unable to do now. I can simply give you warning. It is very dangerous. Hm?
Jayādvaita: We have so many experiences that someone associates with these people and he loses his status.
Prabhupāda: They can warn us that "Don't speak of Gītā," and why shall I allow them to speak? Eh?
Bhavānanda: That is such an insult, especially it's our facility. And as soon as you rent out to people, then you are compromised that they can tell you not to speak of Gītā at their Gītā conference in your hall. And you have to listen because they're giving you money.
Akṣayānanda: Because they're paying.
Bhavānanda: It's outrageous.
Prabhupāda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa? Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. I mean I'm more concerned about Bombay, because there in Bombay I feel that... I don't think that there's a proper understanding on the part of some of the leaders there about the danger of this. I think that the leaders there are not very clear on this point. I'm a little worried about Bombay. I think that they're... They're going to compromise. There's a danger for compromisation there.
Jayādvaita: To be popular.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. To be popular and profitable, they're approaching it on a very businesslike basis. And also the other point is that they're afraid that... In Bombay they've made this hall, such a beautiful hall. So they don't want it to lie vacant or empty, and they just can't think of what can be done inside that hall every single day of the year. It's a fact that hall should be used every day of the year.
Bhavānanda: By us.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: By us. But since they feel that there's not going to be any constant use from our side, they're thinking that it doesn't make sense to have built and spent so much money on such a good hall and not utilize it daily, which from the business point of view is a fact. But that means that you're going to have to invite all kinds of semi... It's not even Kṛṣṇa conscious. I wanted to say semi-Kṛṣṇa conscious, but they're going to have to invite different theater people, entertaining people.
Bhavānanda: So the Kṛṣṇa conscious solution is to utilize the hall every night for our own purposes. Kṛṣṇa consciousness is unlimited. There's so many dramas, so many lectures, so many symposiums.
Prabhupāda: No, suppose you construct some house and rent out. Then they can do as they like. So similarly, if that hall is made, constructed for making some money, then the money will not come if we don't rent out to the cinema actors, actresses. It is just like... What is called? Village house. Hm? The hall is called? When one pays, marriage ceremony... For making some money you have made.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that why we made that hall, for making money?
Prabhupāda: Otherwise what you will do?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, originally you had intended that that hall would be used for Svarūpa Dāmodara's scientists and for our theater group and things like that.
Prabhupāda: That's all right, but are you going to have every day?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I know that they won't. They cannot do that. I mean practically they won't.
Bhavānanda: It's possible, but...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, it would have to take a tremendous endeavor on the part of our movement, and our movement is not... We're not geared to do that.
Prabhupāda: It is like tenant house. So whoever pays to your satisfaction, you give him for one day.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is that all right with you, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: I don't think it is wrong.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. Well, then that makes it very easy.
Prabhupāda: Because it will be a source of income.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, it will be a big source of income. They'll pay a lot of money to use that hall. Not only that, once you let them use the hall, they'll book all the rooms in the hotel at the same time.
Prabhupāda: If you are going to do some business, earn some money, you'll have to allow.
Bhavānanda: But how that will affect the atmosphere and Kṛṣṇa consciousness of the temple? It's not that the theater...
Prabhupāda: Well, atmosphere... Suppose there is temple, and there is the park and other houses, and they are already polluting the atmosphere. You cannot stop it. Is it not?
Jayādvaita: All over our movement we have temples, and then next door there's some nonsense place.
Prabhupāda: Yes. You cannot check the atmosphere all around. That is not possible. (pause) So when you described the number of books, what did they say? Hmm?
Akṣayānanda: They said it was very nice. They said they were very impressed with that, and that you are doing the greatest work. They... Superficially they say all these things. They must.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They haven't even published one book.
Akṣayānanda: They must say these things.
Bhavānanda: Of course, Śrīla Prabhupāda, another view is that we've constructed such attractive facilities here, and the purpose is to attract people to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So if we let out this auditorium in Bombay and here in Vṛndāvana, so those people will come. They may be Māyāvādī... Actually, everyone is Māyāvādī today. So it's a good opportunity for preaching if we're strong.
Akṣayānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Preaching means to convert Māyāvādīs to Vaiṣṇava. Otherwise where is the need of preaching?
Bhavānanda: Preaching also means risk.
Prabhupāda: Yes. No risk. We take money from them. So we get some money; that is our gain. So anything, do very carefully.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So you said we should have a sign, "No Māyāvādī Meetings Allowed."
Prabhupāda: No. If this is allowed free.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh. Well, this wasn't free. They're paying for being here. They're paying to be here.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're paying to hold their program.
Prabhupāda: No gratis lecture allowed. If they pay for, they will talk all nonsense, (laughter) and we don't care for it. These are the considerations. That's all right. Turn me this side. (pause)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Okay. Prabhupāda, you should take some rest now, I think. You've been talking a long time.