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| <div id="General_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>General Lectures</h3> | | <div id="Festival_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="11" parent="Lectures" text="General Lectures"><h3>Festival Lectures</h3> |
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| <div id="LectureExcerptLondonAugust131971_0" class="quote" parent="General_Lectures" book="Lec" index="94" link="Lecture Excerpt -- London, August 13, 1971" link_text="Lecture Excerpt -- London, August 13, 1971"> | | <div id="LectureExcerptLondonAugust131971_0" class="quote" parent="Festival_Lectures" book="Lec" index="94" link="Lecture Excerpt -- London, August 13, 1971" link_text="Lecture Excerpt -- London, August 13, 1971"> |
| <div class="heading">Our process of knowledge, if there is Vedic evidence, that is perfect. You don't require to experiment. Experimental knowledge is never perfect. The same example as we have given several times: that which is unknowable, inconceivable, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. That is not possible. | | <div class="heading">Our process of knowledge, if there is Vedic evidence, that is perfect. You don't require to experiment. Experimental knowledge is never perfect. The same example as we have given several times: that which is unknowable, inconceivable, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. That is not possible. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture Excerpt -- London, August 13, 1971|Lecture Excerpt -- London , August 13, 1971]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So anyway, that is not sentient . That is material. Gas is also material. Gas is another form, vapor. Vapor. Vapor is made out of water. Water or... Vapor is air, major portion of air and minor portion of water. In this way, vapor. So that means it is airy. But no. Air has got its cause. They do not know. Air has got its cause , the sky. The sky has its cause. In this way there is creation. In the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam everything is explained. </p> | | |
| <p>So this Brahma-saṁhitā, the point is, in this Brahma-saṁhitā Kṛṣṇa's name is there. In the Atharva Veda there is Kṛṣṇa's name. So our process of knowledge, if there is Vedic evidence, that is perfect. You don't require to experiment. Experimental knowledge is never perfect. The same example as we have given several times: that which is unknowable, inconceivable, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. That is not possible. You have to receive the knowledge from authority. Just like you cannot understand who is your father by experiment, laboratory. Bring every man and analyze him whether he is your father. Is it possible? No. How many men you will bring in the laboratory? That is not possible. But if you approach to the authority, the mother, immediately you get the knowledge. Ask your mother, "Who is my father?" She'll say, "Here is your father." That means you receive the knowledge from the authority, not by experimental knowledge. Which is inconceivable, beyond your perception, beyond your imagination, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. They are trying to make experi... (break) ...soul. The so-called scientists, they say, "We are trying." You can try on, but it is beyond your experience, beyond your knowledge. Your senses are all imperfect. You can... You cannot understand soul by experimental knowledge. You have to hear from the authority. Just like Kṛṣṇa says,</p>
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| :kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā | | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture Excerpt -- London, August 13, 1971| 710813 - Lecture Festival Janmastami Morning - London]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| :tathā dehāntaraṁ prāptir | | So anyway, that is not sentient; that is material. Gas is also material. Gas is another form, vapor. Vapor . . . vapor is made out of water. Water or . . . vapor is air, major portion of air and minor portion of water. In this way, vapor. So that means it is airy. But no. Air has got its cause. They do not know. Air has got its cause: the sky. The sky has its cause. In this way there is creation. In the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'' everything is explained. |
| :dhīras tatra na muhyati | | |
| :([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]) | | So this ''Brahma-saṁhitā'', the point is, in this ''Brahma-saṁhitā'' Kṛṣṇa's name is there. In the ''Atharva Veda'' there is Kṛṣṇa's name. So our process of knowledge—if there is Vedic evidence, that is perfect. You don't require to experiment. Experimental knowledge is never perfect. The same example as we have given several times: that which is unknowable, inconceivable, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. |
| <p>This is the process. But you can think over. Just like Kṛṣṇa says, dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13|BG 2.13]]). Dehe means "Within this body, there is the proprietor of the body." That is soul. Now, by experimenting, by taking in somebody's body, just like in medical science they dissect the body, you cannot find out. It is so small. Therefore you are saying, "There is no soul." But there is soul. From your experimental knowledge, you cannot understand where is that soul, but there is soul. When the soul is out, the body is dead, useless. That we can experience. Anubhāva. It is called anubhāva perception. So anyone, any sane man, can understand there is something missing. The scientists also say, "the something missing." Now, what is that missing, they cannot say. If they knew it, what is missing, then they are scientists, they could produce again that thing by laboratory mixture of chemicals and put it into the body, and he becomes alive. No, that is not possible. Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet. Therefore Veda says that "Don't uselessly argue on subject matter which is beyond your perception." That is not the process.</p>
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| | That is not possible. You have to receive the knowledge from authority. Just like you cannot understand who is your father by experiment, laboratory. Bring every man and analyze him whether he is your father. Is it possible? No. How many men you will bring it in the laboratory? That is not possible. But if you approach to the authority, the mother, immediately you get the knowledge. Ask your mother, "Who is my father?" She'll say: "Here is your father." |
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| | That means you receive the knowledge from the authority, not by experimental knowledge. Which is inconceivable, beyond your perception, beyond your imagination, that knowledge you cannot get by experiment. They are trying to make experiment . . . (break) . . . soul. The so-called scientists, they say: "We are trying." You can try on, but it is beyond your experience, beyond your knowledge. Your senses are all imperfect. You can . . . you cannot understand soul by experimental knowledge. You have to hear from the authority. Just like Kṛṣṇa says: |
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| | :''dehino 'smin yathā dehe'' |
| | :''kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā'' |
| | :''tathā dehāntaraṁ prāptir'' |
| | :''dhīras tatra na muhyati'' |
| | :([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]) |
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| | This is the process. |
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| | But you can think over. Just like Kṛṣṇa says, ''dehino 'smin yathā dehe. Dehe'' means "Within this body, there is the proprietor of the body." That is soul. Now, by experimenting, by taking in somebody's body—just like in medical science they dissect the body—you cannot find out. It is so small. Therefore you are saying: "There is no soul." But there is soul. From your experimental knowledge, you cannot understand where is that soul, but there is soul. |
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| | When the soul is out, the body is dead, useless. That we can experience. ''Anubhāva''. It is called ''anubhāva'', perception. So anyone, any sane man, can understand there is something missing. The scientists also say: "There something missing." Now, what is that missing they cannot say. If they knew it, what is missing, then they are scientists, they could produce again that thing by laboratory mixture of chemicals and put it into the body, and he becomes alive. No. That is not possible. ''Acintyāḥ khalu ye bhāvā na tāṁs tarkeṇa yojayet'' (''Mahābhārata'', ''Bhīṣma parva'' 5.22). Therefore ''Veda'' says that, "Don't uselessly argue on subject matter which is beyond your perception." That is not the process. |
