Prabhupāda: Just like in your state, you are independent citizen, but you must be guided by the laws. If you violate the laws, immediately you will be prisoner. The śāstra is like that, laws. You have little independence, you can utilize it fully, under the laws. As soon as you violate, you are immediately put into suffering. It is like that. Because you are a citizen of an independent country, America, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you like. But you do according to the laws of the country.
Dayānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, you were talking about dharma, following dharma and Krsna says: "Give up dharma", you were talking the other morning on the walk about dharma, and dharmaḥ projjhita-kaitavo 'tra (SB 1.1.2).
Prabhupāda: Dharma means what God says, that is dharma. But you have created your own dharma. You give up that dharma.
Hari-śauri: He's not referring to sanātana-dharma.
Prabhupāda: Law given by the state, that is law. If you create a law at home, that is not law. So dharma means what is ordained by Kṛṣṇa, God, that is dharma. And other things, that may be temporary. You can create some laws within your family, but that is not generally applicable to others. But when it is given by the government, that is real law. That is applicable to all people. When you go out to the street, you have to abide by the laws of the state, the light. As soon as there is red light, you have to stop. At home you may not make such rules and regulations. But that is within your home, that is not generally. Similarly, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66) means what you have made at your home, concoction, give up all these dharmas. Here is the real dharma: mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja. That is dharma. Everyone has to surrender to Kṛṣṇa, or God. And that is real dharma. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Dayānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, is that what it means in the Bhagavad-gītā when Kṛṣṇa says that we have to go śruti-vipratipannā, we have to go beyond just hearing about these different . . .?
Prabhupāda: Find out that verse.