Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I'm thinking to send a copy of the letter direct to Māyāpur and another one through Calcutta, just in case there's some . . .
Prabhupāda: Do the needful.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Do you want me to go to Delhi, or should I wait until Bhakti-caitanya comes with Mr. Nai on Thursday?
Prabhupāda: No, here.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Today's Tuesday. (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . gṛhastha life. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura independently lived. Or I was also gṛhastha. Our aim was different. But this neophyte, if they remain aloof from temple connection without attending the function, gradually they will be lost.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That was the reason that I suggested to Abhirāma Prabhu that he should make his business in Bombay. Actually, the gṛhasthas have no desire to live independent of the temples. Just like Mādhavānanda, he's got an apartment now just near the temple so that he can attend maṅgala-ārati and the other functions.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Unless these things are continued, the karmīs' poison will spoil him. He can do independent business; there is no harm. But must be connected with the devotional service.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah.
Prabhupāda: Just like Abhirāma constructed that house. That's all right. He is within the campus. There is no harm. And now if he goes away after so much training, advancement, if they are lost, then that's a great loss for the Society. With such . . . with great difficulty we make one Vaiṣṇava. And again, if he goes like Śyāmasundara, then it is great loss. The whole idea is to give up attachment for material world and increase attachment for Kṛṣṇa. That is perfection. Now, according to one's position, gradually. But this is the aim. Paraṁ dṛṣṭvā nivartate (BG 2.59). Nivṛtti.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I don't think Abhirāma has any intention of going away.
Prabhupāda: No, he has no intention, but he lives apart from temple connection . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then he will go away automatically.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So that's not possible, then, for him to go to Bangalore, 'cause we have no center in Bangalore.
Prabhupāda: So he wants to organize a center there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, he was thinking of organizing business.
Prabhupāda: Then Bombay is better place than Bangalore.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. He admits it's a better place. No, he can be encouraged very easily to go to Bombay. I mean, generally, throughout our Society, I don't think the trend of the gṛhasthas is to move away from temples and live independently. If they live independently from the temple, it's in close . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no. There is chance, I said.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: The karmīs' association is very contaminous. Asat-saṅgī. So for him the best thing will be to take a room in Bombay. Let him do business.