Brahmānanda: They're now making women firemen.
Prabhupāda: Firemen?
Brahmānanda: Yeah. So all the wives and girlfriends of the firemen, they have lodged a protest because they are afraid . . . because the firemen, they, often they have nothing to do. So they are afraid that if there are women firemen, that the women firemen will steal away the husbands. So they have made a protest. Because practically they have to remain together. They have to live together in the firehouse.
Prabhupāda: Oh. That is bondage.
Brahmānanda: Well, they're afraid that there will be illicit activity between the firemen and the firewomen. (laughter)
Jayatīrtha: Now they're changing the names. Anything that implies sexism, they want to change the name. Just like "seamstress," now they have to call "sewing machine operator." Because "seamstress" implies that it's a woman's job. So they say "sewing machine operator." Or "firemen," they have to say "fire prevention operator" or something like that.
Kirtirāja: Mailman?
Jayatīrtha: Mailperson.
Kirtirāja: Mailperson. But then they can't even do that, because it's male.
Revatīnandana: . . . (indistinct)
Bahulāśva: They're going crazy now in this country, Prabhupāda. Men are having operations to become like women.
Prabhupāda: Yes, there is a student here? (laughter)
Bahulāśva: He's in San Francisco. Or she's in San Francisco.
Kirtirāja: Is that Winifred?
Bahulāśva: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Why not woman become man? Then that will be nice. Manpower will increase. Because every country, the population of woman is bigger than the man. So if a woman can be made into man, then manpower will increase.
Jayādvaita: Then the women will decrease.
Prabhupāda: No, there is no question of decrease. They are already increased. They will be equal quantity.