Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's going to explain what it is. "And social welfare services are helping more and more misfits to survive to procreate more and more misfits as future citizens. While the short-term goal is achieved, the long-term goal is jeopardized. Future governments are not going to allow all the misfits to procreate misfit children on the ground that life originates from the Supreme Soul. It is the unique ability of man to engage in creative thinking that has made him succeed in his fight against the laws of nature."
Prabhupāda: What you have gained? Your father died. Your mother died. You are a great scientist. Why you cannot save them? What is the value of your education? Simply empty voice. You'll also die. Can you make provision that you'll not die?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "Future," they'll say.
Prabhupāda: That is empty voice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, boy. He says: "The highly developed forebrain and the deeply convoluted cortex have helped him to think creatively. Scientists, as a general rule, are objective thinkers because they base their thoughts on empirical knowledge. Mystics and visionaries, the so-called spiritual scientists of Dāsa and Swami, on the other hand, build up their thoughts on their subjective perceptions. Books on chemistry, physics, mathematics, geography, history, geology, anthropology, paleontology, engineering, medical science, astronomy, etc. are the products of objective thinkers."
Prabhupāda: Big, big words, that's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: "On the other hand, books like Arabian Nights, Gulliver's Travels . . ."
Prabhupāda: Who's that Arabian Night?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ". . . fairy stories like the Mahā . . ."
Prabhupāda: Who's talking Arabian Night?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says: "Fairy stories like Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa, Bible, Koran, Pilgrim's . . ." Oh, this man . . . "Pilgrim's Progress, Jataka stories, astrology, palmistry, numerology, theology, demonology, etc. are the products of subjective thinkers. While the former are factual, the latter are all fictitious. Some of the marvelous achievements of mankind in recent years are the liberation of atomic energy, radio telescopy, to reach . . ."
Prabhupāda: What is value of atomic energy? A man is dying; you have accelerated his death. That's all.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Says "Landing on the moon . . ."
Prabhupāda: Have you invented something that man will not die? Then it is approved. They are dying. You have given facilities to die earlier. That is atomic energy. There is no energy which can save him—"No more death." Is that improvement? By nature one dies natural death, and you have accelerated—many millions of people can be killed by this atomic weapon. So what is your achievement? Save millions of people.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says, "Mentally deranged intellectuals are capable of expatiating on their hallucinations."
Prabhupāda: So who is mentally deranged?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says we are. He says: "And they often become founders and preachers of diverse types of religious cults."
Prabhupāda: No, no. Your atomic energy, what benefit has done to the people?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: A real rākṣasa. Here's Haṁsadūta's reply to him. "Reply to Dr. Kovoor's article: Before going into the main body of my article, which I . . . a transcript of a lecture I delivered at Sarasvatī Hall on July 29th before an audience of approximately one thousand respectable gentry of Colombo, and where Dr. Kovoor also happened to be present and was subsequently challenged but failed to defend his position that life is generated by chance chemical combination, I would briefly like to point out the apparent defects in his article.