Hari-śauri: You told us, in Hawaii, they had emeralds as big as huge boulders.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.
Hari-śauri: Yes, big rocks, like this, when we were walking in Hawaii.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: And the beaches are made of gems.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So what is the difficulty? This is also stone; that is also stone. That is valuable stone, that's all—valuable in your eye.
Gurudāsa: So kalpa-vṛkṣa is the topmost, and this is perverted.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurudāsa: So the moon planet is said to be high planet, but sand is not as nice as vegetation. How is that?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Gurudāsa: The moon planet is said to be higher planet, but sand is not . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, they say that moon planet, there is sand. They have brought sand. I say: "Wherefrom the sand came unless there is water?"
Gurudāsa: Yes.
Devotee (1): Came from Arizona. (laughter)
Hari-śauri: Actually, when they brought that dust, they said they brought that dust back, they made the point that it's just like the dust here. That's the same things again. You pointed out, "Why they are mentioning Arizona when they're talking about Mars?"
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: That means they've never been past Arizona.
Prabhupāda: All business is going on in Arizona.