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We get from sastras: the so-called enemies of God who is killed by God, he also attains perfection

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1974 Conversations and Morning Walks

Just like in the material world we have got experience, fighting propensity is just opposite the loving propensity. But in God, either fighting propensity or loving propensity, they are one and the same; therefore He is absolute. That is the meaning of absolute. Just like we get from śāstras: the so-called enemies of God who is killed by God, he also attains perfection.

Prabhupāda: Everything is there. Because love is also coming from God. So we are, being part and parcel of God, there is part and parcel manifestation of love because the original love is there in God. Because nothing can exist. Nothing can exist if it is not in God.

Desmond O'Grady: Therefore we love.

Prabhupāda: The love is also there in God.

Desmond O'Grady: But God is not love?

Prabhupāda: God is love. God is everything.

Desmond O'Grady: Oh, yeah. Then love is God.

Prabhupāda: Oh, yes.

Desmond O'Grady: And manifestations of love are manifestations of God.

Prabhupāda: Ah . . . because we are part and parcel . . . just like son born of a particular father, he has got the symptoms. So because there is loving propensity in God, and we being part and parcel of God, therefore we have got this loving propensity. This is the conclusion. Unless the loving propensity is there in God, where we get it?

Desmond O'Grady: Maybe it's generated in you by the need . . .

Prabhupāda: No, there is no question of "maybe." It must be. Must be.

Desmond O'Grady: (laughs) Oh, very . . . yes, I accept the strong word.

Prabhupāda: Yes. There is no question of . . . because we have defined God, janmādy asya yataḥ. God is He wherefrom everything emanates. That is God. So love, love or even fight. The fighting propensity is also there in God. And loving propensity is also there in God. But His fighting propensity and loving propensity—absolute. Just like in the material world we have got experience, fighting propensity is just opposite the loving propensity. But in God, either fighting propensity or loving propensity, they are one and the same; therefore He is absolute. That is the meaning of absolute. Just like we get from śāstras: the so-called enemies of God who is killed by God, he also attains perfection.

Desmond O'Grady: Yes, the vengeful. Yes, that I understand, the avenging God of Biblical imagination as against . . . is it possible to do it all alone? Is it possible to do it all on your own, alone?

Prabhupāda: No. Therefore the Vedas say, tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet (MU 1.2.12). Abhigacchet means "he must." It is not possible alone. This word, this abhigacchet, this verb, is used in Sanskrit grammar. This is called vidhiliṅ form of verb. So vidhiliṅ form of verb is used when there is a . . . matter is a must. Tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum eva abhigacchet, samit-pāṇiḥ śrotriyam. And that is the Vedic version. Therefore . . . you have read Bhagavad-gītā. You will find Arjuna was talking with Kṛṣṇa.

Page Title:We get from sastras: the so-called enemies of God who is killed by God, he also attains perfection
Compiler:SharmisthaK
Created:2022-10-16, 14:26:33
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