Prabhupāda: The material disease means we have challenged Kṛṣṇa, God, "Oh, what is God? We can live independently." And that is material scientist. They are trying to prove, "There is no God. We can create everything in the laboratory." And that is their foolishness.
Indian guest: Yeah, there are many, many atheist. I know that.
Prabhupāda: Their whole propaganda is atheism. Therefore we are not very favorably disposed, the so-called scientists. Their whole propaganda is how to prove there is no God. That is their only aim. I mean, people say that, "Oh, now nobody is going to talk of God. Talk of science." They say like that. Is it not?
Satsvarūpa: Dr. Radhakrishnan said, "Religion won't be accepted unless it can be accepted in terms of science."
Prabhupāda: So, religion is not science? We are following blindly?
Satsvarūpa: No, we have our own science.
Prabhupāda: No own science. This is science. They are following blindly, nonsense, the Radhakrishnan and company. We are following . . . therefore our Dr. Svarūpa Dāmodara has said: "Kṛṣṇa, the greatest scientist." We are following the greatest scientist. They are rascals. They are following the false scientist.
Bahulāśva: They have never seen the atom, but they believe in it.
Prabhupāda: Atom . . . atom, not question of seeing. You can count all the atoms throughout the universe; still, you cannot understand what is Kṛṣṇa. You may be so great scientist that you can count each and every atom within the universe, but still, you shall remain unable to understand Kṛṣṇa. That is stated in the śāstra.