Prabhupāda: Pāṇḍu-putrāṇāṁ yeṣāṁ pakṣe janārdana. Pāṇḍu-putra, the Pāṇḍavas, are glorified because on their side, Kṛṣṇa is there. Therefore, victory for them. One very big doctor of Allahabad, my old friend, Dr. G. Ghosh, he is also D.T.M., and MBBS D.T.M . . . . (indistinct) . . . he wants to join this movement.
Dr. Patel: Haribol. There will be one doctor, he'll look to the health and hygiene of the inmates.
Prabhupāda: Why not yourself?
Dr. Patel: On that point I'm going to be very . . . (indistinct) . . . That gentleman . . .
Prabhupāda: These rascals, asuras, they do not know which is the goal of life. But in which way we should direct? These rascals, they do not know. Still, they become public leaders, asuras. Na viduḥ. How to dissuade people to stop this? Just like we are doing: no illicit sex. It is nivṛtti. Nivṛtti. No illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, no meat-eating. This is nivṛtti. Just hear me. And pravṛtti, take to Kṛṣṇa. This is pravṛtti, nivṛtti. But the rascal demons, leaders, they do not know these things. Pravṛttiṁ ca nivṛttiṁ ca na viduḥ asura-jana (BG 16.7). They do not know it. Still, they become leaders. They do not know in which way people should be directed, and still they claim to be public leaders.