Prabhupāda: They want to be cheated, and you also cheat them. Very good business.
Dr. Gerson: I would like to show them a path so that they won't be cheated any longer.
Prabhupāda: Provided you know the path.
Dr. Gerson: I'm trying to learn.
Prabhupāda: So first of all learn it, otherwise you will be cheating. If you do not know the art, and if you want to do some benefit to the others, then that is cheating. Suppose a physician, he does not know what is the medical science, and if he wants to become a physician that is cheating. Quack. (laughter)
Dr. Gerson: I hope through the study that I'm doing with the devotees and the book that comes out of it that it will help them not be cheated any longer, and show them the right way.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Bahulāśva: He is advising his patients that they should chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and come to the temple.
Prabhupāda: Then he is very nice. Then you are friend.
Dr. Gerson: Another thing I would like to do is go to Gurukula and test the children and show what NBC did was very false and unfair.
Jayatīrtha: On television they did a very bad story on Gurukula.
Prabhupāda: Yes, they're . . . they cheater. He wants to cheat and get some money. That's all. Because the whole so-called human society is combination of cheater and cheated. So anyone who is acting without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he is a cheater. And anyone who is thinking himself advanced without Kṛṣṇa consciousness, he is cheated. This is the basic principle. I mean Kṛṣṇa consciousness, God consciousness, so when we speak of Kṛṣṇa—God. Without God consciousness, everyone is cheated. And because everyone is cheated, there must be cheater. This is correlative term. If I say: "I am cheated," that means there is a cheater. And if there is a cheater, there must be cheated. This is relative term.
Dr. Gerson: NBC did an unfair story on Gurukula. They cheated. And I would like to undo that. I would like to go and show that the school is very good.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is very kind of you. But there have been so many attempts to cut down this movement, but they are cheated. They could not do so.
Dr. Gerson: May I try to help?
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is your real business. In India also, they are still making so much propaganda. They are making propaganda that, "These American devotees, they are CIA." (laughter) This propaganda is very strong in India, making the people against these American boys who are preaching. So this is going on. They financed one film, "Hare Krishna," that is spite against us. But still, those who are sincere, they are praising, "Yes, this is a real."
Brahmānanda: In India the effect of that film is just the opposite, that everyone is chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.