Prabhupāda: They say that "We shall create human being according to our necessity."
Dr. Patel: It is not possible to . . . can they create a leaf? Then let them create a human.
Prabhupāda: But that . . . therefore we say rascals.
Dr. Patel: But then you don't bracket all of us, together. We are four or five of us here. We are next to you. We are none of those.
Prabhupāda: Then the same theory, that "This side of stool is dry. It is good." (laughter) Yes.
Dr. Patel: Because it going to be manure, manure the food.
Prabhupāda: "And the other side is moist, therefore it is bad."
Dr. Patel: Yes, sir. That type of stool which goes and manures the crop, that is good, evidently.
Prabhupāda: No, no, after all, stool, this side or that side . . . the whole conclusion is that unless one is surrendered to Kṛṣṇa, he remains in darkness.
Dr. Patel: That's right.
Prabhupāda: That is the point. Therefore we are trying to enlighten people to Kṛṣṇa consciousness.
Dr. Patel: And a scientist trying to unearth the secret of nature means Kṛṣṇa. He is doing work for Kṛṣṇa, and he cannot be . . .
Prabhupāda: No, no, everyone has to work for Kṛṣṇa.