Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Same principle. If you get on the wrong spot, you have to go to jail. That's what they have. They put you in jail. Different culture. Demoniac culture.
Prabhupāda: Just see, practically. Indira Gandhi, she came to a point, and then falls again. Is it not? The same golo dhana. She was all-in-all powerful, and once again finished.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Finished.
Prabhupāda: Indira Gandhi—finished. President Nixon—finished. They do not see, these big, big stalwart men of the world. They can be finished in one second. Prahlāda Mahārāja said that, "I have seen my father, such a powerful man, finished. What benediction I shall ask, this material world? Don't allure me. Better engage me as the servant of Your servant." Anything, any opulence. Now nobody utters the name of Indira Gandhi. Every . . . every day the people or newspaper filled up with Indira Gandhi. That the Russian minister, Krushchev? Nobody knows where he is.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He's unknown now.
Prabhupāda: They said he is living privately.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Why did they depose him?
Prabhupāda: The cause may be many, but we have to see the result. The main cause was that he was appointing his own men in big, big office.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Same thing as Indira.
Prabhupāda: Nepotism. Indira's plan was next prime minister, Sanjay.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Family heritage. I saw one cartoon in the . . . in one newspaper. It said . . . a little conversation between Gandhi, Nehru and Indira. They're speaking with Cāṇakya Paṇḍita. Each one of them is discussing how he's gone wrong. Cāṇakya is advising them what they've done wrong. Cāṇakya Paṇḍita is advising each one of them what they did wrong.