Prabhupāda: No, no. I don't speak for anyone. But these kinds of paramahaṁsas are there. They cannot go out of Vṛndāvana, they are so advanced. But in Vṛndāvana, if there is a beautiful woman, try to exploit her. Go on. (pause) So I wanted to talk with you about that Saurabha, but he's coming on Monday. No? (pause) Because Caitanya Mahāprabhu asked the Gosvāmīs that "You develop Vṛndāvana," so Gosvāmīs, they did that. But these smoker, biḍi smoker paramahaṁsas, they imitate Rūpa Gosvāmī: "You cannot go." Simply by imitating Gosvāmīs by a loincloth they have become . . . (break) Pṛthivīte āche yata naga . . . (CB Antya-khaṇḍa 4.126). All over the world, as many villages and towns are there, preach. But this paramahaṁsa says, "No, no. I cannot go beyond Vṛndāvana." Kali's . . . Kali-yuga's paramahaṁsa. Practically, if I remained at Rādhā-Dāmodara temple becoming a paramahaṁsa, then how this institution would have come into existence? That is a fact. But we are not doing. If I would have been a great paramahaṁsa, not to leave Vṛndāvana, I would have been very happy in that room; no botheration. Then how this movement would have been started all over the world?
Hari-śauri: That kind of paramahaṁsa would have probably been pleased if the movement hadn't started.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Hari-śauri: I said that kind of paramahaṁsa . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. They are against us. They criticize us, all the gosvāmīs, the bābājīs. I have become eyesore.
Hari-śauri: (laughs) Sore for their eyes.
Prabhupāda: Therefore Nitāi left. He was instigated that "Your guru is useless. Find out a better guru and remain in bhajana." This rascal left. He talked with . . . (indistinct) . . . Now where he has gone?
Hari-śauri: Haven't heard anything for a while.
Prabhupāda: Nobody knows where is the paramahaṁsa. (laughs)
Girirāja: The others are envious.
Prabhupāda: Yes, because they're ordinary men. Man's business is to become envious. An ordinary third-class men . . .
Hari-śauri: They're always envious.
Prabhupāda: . . . there is always envy. Not only first class, but third class. And what to speak of Vaiṣṇava and paramahaṁsa. Third-class men. And the government is capturing them and giving sterilization, because there is record—so many abortions in the American Hospital. The bābājīs are making pregnant these widows, and they are going for abortion. There are many cases, similar, and there is American Hospital.
Girirāja: In Vṛndāvana?
Hari-śauri: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Not all. But wherefrom they are becoming pregnant?