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Not all sakti; two panca-tattva. Isavatara, tat-prakasa avatara, they are not sakti. They are all the saktiman

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"Not all śakti; two pañca-tattva. Īśāvatāra, tat-prakāśa avatāra, they are not śakti. They are all the śaktimān"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1972 Conversations and Morning Walks

Not all śakti; two pañca-tattva. Īśāvatāra, tat-prakāśa(?) avatāra, they are not śakti. They are all the śaktimān.


Prabhupāda: How he gives quotation from Buddhism?

Indian man (2): No, he, he . . .

Prabhupāda: But he says from Buddhism.

Indian man (2): He draws comparisons. He traces the historical background, and then the conditions prevalent . . . conditions prevalent particularly in Orissa at that time Vyāsarūpa Gosvāmī lived.

Prabhupāda: One thing is that he says that it is from Buddhism. So where is the authoritative statement in the Buddhism about pañca-tattva? That he has not mentioned.

Indian man (2): No. He has said in Buddhism you have the principle of pañca-śaktis.

Prabhupāda: Śakti and tattva is not the same thing.

Indian man (2): Well, yes.

Prabhupāda: Śakti is part of tattva.

Indian man (2): But these pañca-tattvas . . .

Prabhupāda: Śakti also can be taken as tattva.

Indian man (2): As tattva, yes. And these tattvas, pañca-tattvas, have been described as śaktis. These pañca-tattvas also have been described as śakti.

Prabhupāda: But Caitanya Mahaprabhu as śaktimān, and others . . .

Indian man (2): As śakti.

Prabhupāda: Not all śakti; two pañca-tattva. Īśāvatāra, tat-prakāśa avatāra, they are not śakti. They are all the śaktimān.

Indian man (2): Yes, yes.

Prabhupāda: And only śakti-tattva, Gadādhara and Śrīvāsa. And other three, They are śaktimān-tattva.

Indian man (2): They are śaktimān-tattva.

Prabhupāda: Pañca-tattvātmakaṁ kṛṣṇaṁ bhakta . . . (CC Adi 1.14).

Indian man (2): That śloka is from Svarūpa Dāmodara, his kavaca, which he says nobody has ever seen. So it was very safe for Kṛṣṇadāsa Kavirāja to quote the authority of this kavaca, because it is nonexistent. And that is his only authority for the pañca-tattva principle. A mention has also been made of this in Gaura-gaṇoddeśa-dīpikā, but he says that is not an authoritative work, that that doesn't really . . .

Prabhupāda: That means whatever he says, that is authority.

Page Title:Not all sakti; two panca-tattva. Isavatara, tat-prakasa avatara, they are not sakti. They are all the saktiman
Compiler:TariniKalindi
Created:2016-01-24, 11:13:11
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1