Prabhupāda: How he claims to be the body?
Devotee: He said people say that there is consciousness in this body because there is soul. Then at the end of the body, soul is finished, the body is finished. Everything finished.
Prabhupāda: Why soul is finished?
Devotee: Because they say the body is finished.
Prabhupāda: No . . . body is finished . . . my childhood body is finished, but the soul is not finished.
Bhagavān: They will not listen logically. What can you do?
Prabhupāda: How it is? My childhood body, my babyhood body is finished. It is no longer existing. So how I am existing? Therefore his statement that the body is finished and the soul is finished is wrong. We see practically. The body is finished, the soul is existing. This is practical. Why he's talking nonsense—"The body is finished and the soul is finished." Where the soul is finished? I remember my childhood body. So I, I am existing, but my childhood body's finished. That is the fact. Therefore with the annihilation of the body, the soul does not annihilate. This is the conclusion.
Guru-gaurāṅga: The baby body is finished, but soul is still there.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru-gaurāṅga: So when this body is finished, why shall the soul be gone?
Prabhupāda: Even the father, mother is not crying. The mother's baby dies, she cries, she becomes mad. But when the child gives up that childhood body, accept another body, she's happy because she knows, "My son is there. He has only changed the body." The mother knows. Mother is not crying "Oh, where is my child gone, sir?" He (she) knows that, "My child is here. He has changed his body." These are the arguments.
If the foolish rascal will not accept genuine arguments, logic, then how he can be convinced? He's a animal. The animals cannot be convinced. In another way. Any man, any man with little brain substance, he'll understand this. Where is the difficulty? But it is useless to talk with animals. You cannot argue with the dogs and hogs. That is not possible. So if their brain is doggish and hoggish, how you can convince them? But the logic is there, the argument is there.
Guru-gaurāṅga: How is it they can see continuity between baby's body and young boy's body and young man's body—they say: "Oh, he's still here"—but they can see no continuity between this body and . . .
Prabhupāda: That, he has no eyes. How I have got my continuity of my childhood thoughts and now also? Just like for a old man, he hasn't got so much sexual power, but the sex continuity is there. He wants to enjoy. Therefore he takes some medicine. He takes some injection. Why? The continuity. That means the continuity is mind. The gross body has changed. The mind is there, subtle. Intelligence is there.
That is continuity. And that continuity, that subtle body, mind and intelligence, carry me to another body, as it is doing now. My gross body has changed, but mind and intelligence continuing. Similarly, when this body will be completely finished, my mind and intelligence will carry me to another gross body. Then, in the womb of my mother, I shall grow another gross body, the mind and intelligence being continued. And I get a particular type of body on the condition of mind and intelligence at the time of death. Death means finishing this body. But the mind and intelligence is the same, as the air carries the flavor. This is the logic.