Prabhupāda: Muhammad says he is servant of God. Christ says he is son of God. And Kṛṣṇa says, "I am God." So where is the difference? The son will say the same thing, the servant will say the same thing, and the father also will say the same thing. So theology means to know God and abide by His order. That is my understanding. And theology does not mean to make research who is God. That is theosophy. So if you are theologicians, then you must know what is God and abide by His order. What do you think, Dr. Judah?
Dr. Judah: Pardon?
Prabhupāda: What do you think, this proposition?
Dr. Judah: Yes, well, I think you're quite right. I think that it is... Certainly, in our day and age, many of us don't really know God.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Then he is not theologician. He is theosophist.
Dr. Judah: We know about God, but we do not know God. I would agree.
Prabhupāda: Then that is theosophist. Theosophists, they are thinking there is something superior. But who is that superior, they are searching out. The same thing: a boy, he knows, "I have a father," but "Who is my father? That I do not know." "Oh, that, you have to ask your mother." That's all. Alone he cannot understand. So our proposition is that if you do not know God, and here is God, Kṛṣṇa, why don't you accept Him? You do not know first of all. And if I present, "Here is God," then why don't you accept? What is the answer? We are presenting God, "Here is God." And big, big ācāryas have accepted—Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Viṣṇu Svāmī, Lord Caitanya, in our disciplic succession my Guru Mahārāja—and I am preaching, "This is God." I am not presenting a God whimsically. I am presenting a God who is recognized. So why don't you accept? What is the difficulty?
Dr. Judah: I suppose one of the difficulties for certainly many in the older generation is that we follow certain patterns of life, and the...
Prabhupāda: Then you are not serious about God.
Dr. Judah: And, er, it is difficult to change. This is the great problem.
Prabhupāda: Then you are not serious. Therefore Kṛṣṇa said, sarva-dharmān parityaja mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ (BG 18.66): "You have to give up."
Dr. Judah: That's right.
Prabhupāda: Because if you are not prepared to give up, then you cannot accept God.
Dr. Orr: I think you're being a little unfair to Dr. Crossley. I think what you say is true, that the most important thing we can do is to seek and know God, but I don't think it's right to say that it's a bad thing to study how other people, or how man has...
Prabhupāda: No, I don't say bad thing. I say if you are serious about God, now, here is God.
Dr. Orr: That's what a university in part is for, to study about how people have thought on different matters.
Prabhupāda: No, that's all right. I have already said. If you are seeking after something, if you get that something, why don't you accept it?
Dr. Orr: Do you believe that Christ said that Kṛṣṇa was his father?
Prabhupāda: The name may be different. Just like in our countries we say this flower something; you say something, something. But the subject matter must be the same. Name is not... You can say in a different way, as you understand. But God is one. God cannot be two. You may give Him different names. That is different thing. But God is one. God cannot be two.