Bhagavān: (indistinct) . . . He said that, "Many times, my students ask me questions that I do not know. So I try to answer." But you said: "If you do not know, you should not teach." You said: "Our philosophy is that if you do not know, you should step down." He said: "I cannot do that."
Prabhupāda: He's getting salary, money. No sincerity.
Bhagavān: So actually a devotee has an answer for every question.
Prabhupāda: That is devotee, who can answer any question. Everything is discussed in the Bhagavad-gītā. Everything, complete knowledge. Now in Bhagavad-gītā it is said that this cosmic manifestation . . . now you find out this verse: mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ sūyate sa-carācaram (BG 9.10). Mayā. M-a-y-ā.
Devotee: Still too loud.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee: It's too loud downstairs. There have been complaints from the neighbors.
Prabhupāda: Loud, they are very good. How can you stop it? As soon as you chant, somebody . . . that you cannot check. You may stop mṛdaṅga, that's all.
Haṁsadūta:
- mayādhyakṣeṇa prakṛtiḥ
- sūyate sa-carācaram
- hetunānena kaunteya
- jagad viparivartate
- (BG 9.10)
"This material nature is working under My direction, O son of Kuntī, and it is producing all moving and unmoving beings. By its rule this manifestation is created and annihilated again and again."
Prabhupāda: So when Kṛṣṇa is directing, is it aimless? The whole cosmic manifestation, is it aimless? There is some purpose. Otherwise, why God has created, and He's directing? These people, they cannot understand it.
Yogeśvara: They'll challenge. They have arguments.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Yogeśvara: They will say that, "If you . . ." Just like . . . actually things . . . there is no order behind things. If you throw a ball against a wall . . .
Prabhupāda: Who is, rascal, throwing that ball? Who is that, rascal, throwing that ball? If you are giving that example, somebody's throwing ball, who is that rascal, throwing that ball?
Yogeśvara: Let's say someone who wants to prove there's no direction to the way . . .
Prabhupāda: Rascal, if you, as soon as you say: "Throwing ball," somebody's throwing. How can you deny it? You give the example "throwing ball," but throwing ball means somebody's throwing.