Prabhupāda: It is simply obstinacy. One who does not take to the meditation of God, or they want to meditate in something other, void or impersonal—that is not possible; that is simply troublesome—so simply they are wasting time, because ultimately they have come to this point of personal conception of the Supreme Lord.
Bahūnāṁ janmanām, after many, many births, if they are fortunate enough to meet some real devotee, then he becomes enlightened. And vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19), he then accepts Vasudeva, Kṛṣṇa, as everything. Sa mahātmā su-durlabhaḥ: "Such kind of great soul is very rare."
So here is an opportunity to get directly that post of great soul by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. So it is very scientific. We can present this formula to any person who wants to understand this movement scientifically, philosophically, logically. There is no dearth of all these things in this movement. We are not sentimental at all. Of course, there must be sentiment. Without sentiment, nobody can come to the stage of ecstasy. But that sentiment is transcendental sentiment. This is not ordinary sentiment.
Sentiment, when religion or any faith is devoid of philosophy and logic, then it is material sentiment. And philosophy and logic without understanding of God is simply waste of time, mental . . .
(break) So both should be combined—religion plus philosophy. One should understand the principles of religion with philosophy and logic.
We are claiming college students, university students, because we are presenting religion on the basis of philosophy and logic. We are not blindly following. We have no dogmatism. We have got reason, philosophy and everything, science. If you want to understand this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement on the basis of philosophy, logic and science, we are prepared to present to you. But the ultimate goal is to surrender unto the Supreme.
So although you will find some of the students joining us, they are not very great philosopher or great scientist or greatest educationist, but they have accepted the reality, Kṛṣṇa. Therefore they are the highest yogī. They are highest yogī. Just like if somebody is offering one million dollars, one may understand it or may not understand it, what is the value of one million dollars. But if one has got that one million of dollars, then he is rich man undoubtedly.
Similarly, the boys and the disciples and the followers of this movement, who are accepting Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Lord, oh, they have already got that millions of dollars. They are richest. They may not understand it, that what is the value of Kṛṣṇa, but because . . . just like fire. If you touch knowingly or unknowingly, it is fire, and it is burn your body. Similarly, if Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then one who has taken Him, then he will derive the highest benefit undoubtedly.
Thank you very much. Any questions? (break)
Devotee: . . . "The conqueror of sleep" is one of his names. How and what relation can develop greater love for Kṛṣṇa through conquering sleep?
Prabhupāda: Sleep?
Devotee: Resting.
Pradyumna: He said Arjuna's another name was Guḍākeśa.
Prabhupāda: Guḍākeśa. Guḍākeśa. Guḍākeśa means one who has conquered sleep. Sleeping means māyā, or darkness. Just like in sleeping you do not know where you are, similarly, a person who is in the darkness . . . everyone is, in this material conditional life, everyone is in darkness. He does not know wherefrom he has come, what for he has come, what he has to do and where he is going next. All these questions are darkness for him. So anyone who has conquered over this darkness, he is called guḍākeśa.